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[*] posted on 4-10-2024 at 07:22


A uniform that explodes. That seems even more feasible. Military uniforms have stud or shank buttons, which do not have issues with a standard weight since no one cares to weigh them. They're sewn to the fabric and, if all the buttons on an uniform have the same feel, undetectable.



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[*] posted on 4-10-2024 at 10:59


Quote: Originally posted by Precipitates  

Coins would be too indiscriminate, but clothing, especially garments worn by soldiers of an opposing army, perhaps doesn't seem so far fetched now.


Is there any report of such clothing? or it is again a mere myth?

Is there even any polymeric high explosives that could be used in manufacturing clothing or even objects?

Such as below image (Notice it is just an imaginary polymer with similarities to Polystyrene, perhaps it could be called PolyNitrostyrene!)



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[*] posted on 4-10-2024 at 11:06


Quote: Originally posted by bnull  
A uniform that explodes. That seems even more feasible. Military uniforms have stud or shank buttons, which do not have issues with a standard weight since no one cares to weigh them. They're sewn to the fabric and, if all the buttons on an uniform have the same feel, undetectable.


The problem of this myth "Detonable Uniforms" is that is there detonable fabrics?
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[*] posted on 4-10-2024 at 11:34


An Hardplastic explosvie like Nipolite you could make many things as an
explosive.
https://www.yumpu.com/de/document/read/2646660/nipolit-kampf...


[Edited on 4-10-2024 by Alkoholvergiftung]
https://www.yumpu.com/de/document/read/2648786/nipolit-kampf...
on the secound linke you see soles and raincoats out if this material.

[Edited on 4-10-2024 by Alkoholvergiftung]
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[*] posted on 4-10-2024 at 14:36


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Is there any report of such clothing? or it is again a mere myth?

Again, none so far.

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Is there even any polymeric high explosives that could be used in manufacturing clothing or even objects?

Welcome to the amazing world of plastics! From billiard balls to motion picture films, from paints and lacquers to filtration membranes, and souvenirs, such as a small pocket knife with celluloid handle scales (I have one). Nitrocellulose and its mixtures, poly(4-nitrostyrene), nitrostarch, polyvinyl nitrate.

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[*] posted on 7-10-2024 at 03:20



Back in the day the 'Black book(s)' give recipes for eXplosive cake etc using RDX.
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[*] posted on 7-10-2024 at 11:12


Quote: Originally posted by yobbo II  

Back in the day the 'Black book(s)' give recipes for eXplosive cake etc using RDX.


Yes, as well as candles, etc! but haven't seen a detonable uniform yet!
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[*] posted on 9-10-2024 at 14:50


It's good that you brought up this topic Laboratory of Liptakov ;)

To the best of my knowledge, Detasheet PETN-based plastic explosives are not so easily detectable by X-ray gates. In addition, I once checked a self-made detasheet (PETN, plasticizer and nitrocellulose) - it detonated in a strip 0.5 mm thick and 15 mm wide. For such materials, it is not so much the critical diameter that is important, but the critical thickness layer (ratio of thickness to width).

Regarding the micro detonator, I would not be surprised how any of the electronic components (SMD type resistor or capacitor) was covered with the primary explosive. The question is which one, that it was also not detected. The mass of such an igniter need not exceed 0.1g if it is in contact with the PETN.

Regarding the mass - knowing the dimensions of the pager, you can determine its volume and on this basis calculate what mass of explosive could have been used. From the information I found and received, inside the electronics occupy 70-80% of the box. In addition, it is worth adding that the pagers were programmed in such a way that the explosion would occur (supposedly) after the 3rd signal. That a person would take it in his hand and bring it close to his face, in order to increase the impact of the shrapnel and the material itself.

What do you think about this?
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[*] posted on 9-10-2024 at 19:30


Quote: Originally posted by Marcello0922  
It's good that you brought up this topic Laboratory of Liptakov ;)

To the best of my knowledge, Detasheet PETN-based plastic explosives are not so easily detectable by X-ray gates. In addition, I once checked a self-made detasheet (PETN, plasticizer and nitrocellulose) - it detonated in a strip 0.5 mm thick and 15 mm wide. For such materials, it is not so much the critical diameter that is important, but the critical thickness layer (ratio of thickness to width).

Regarding the micro detonator, I would not be surprised how any of the electronic components (SMD type resistor or capacitor) was covered with the primary explosive. The question is which one, that it was also not detected. The mass of such an igniter need not exceed 0.1g if it is in contact with the PETN.

Regarding the mass - knowing the dimensions of the pager, you can determine its volume and on this basis calculate what mass of explosive could have been used. From the information I found and received, inside the electronics occupy 70-80% of the box. In addition, it is worth adding that the pagers were programmed in such a way that the explosion would occur (supposedly) after the 3rd signal. That a person would take it in his hand and bring it close to his face, in order to increase the impact of the shrapnel and the material itself.

What do you think about this?


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[*] posted on 10-10-2024 at 06:05


From the information gathered, it appears that a so-called thermal shock was used to initiate the PETN in the pagers. The heat from partially shorting the battery combined with the aluminum and copper in the battery design created the conditions for a full detonation.....:cool:



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[*] posted on 11-10-2024 at 09:43


Quote: Originally posted by Laboratory of Liptakov  
From the information gathered, it appears that a so-called thermal shock was used to initiate the PETN in the pagers. The heat from partially shorting the battery combined with the aluminum and copper in the battery design created the conditions for a full detonation.....:cool:


I think this is false information.
Special services will not use the unreliable method when they have all materials for a reliable method. They will use a microdetonator containing 20-50mg of primary explosives.

[Edited on 11-10-2024 by Etanol]
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[*] posted on 13-10-2024 at 13:55


Before this gets taken down…
Here’s a video from Ordnance Labs demonstrating a recreation.




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