Rogeryermaw
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possible trade
i have been burned. i foolishly made an order with sciencelab.com. i am warning you all now if anyone here doesn't know about them. they scam hard. i
made an order for chems their website said they had. my card was immediately charged and i promptly received an email that said item was on back order
two - three weeks. that was three months ago.
i looked up reviews for this company and was directed to www.resellerratings.com there are 23 plus reviews on this company, all negative. it seems this is the scam they pull and then the items are never
sent. if enough time goes by you can no longer dispute the charges to your card. enough ranting.
the trade i propose is POCl3 (phosphorus oxychloride) for elemental phosphorus (white phosphorus). if anyone is interested p.m. me to discuss
quantities and terms. by the way it is the POCl3 i need and P4 that i have.
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SovereignSolip
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Yeah I need some phosphoryl chloride too.
Sorry.
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Rogeryermaw
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update: i finally put enough pressure on sciencelab.com that they finally shipped my order. still i need to do an analysis to be sure i got the right
chemical.
the plan is to place a drop of the "POCl3" into a test tube, hydrolyze, and test for the evolution of HCl with a stream of NH3 gas to look for the
characteristic cloud of ammonium chloride. then possibly check the boiling point. sound good?
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#maverick#
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Glad to hear you got your order. You should report them to BBB
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Rogeryermaw
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i did. the BBB, the police and an attorney.
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#maverick#
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Good. I hate people that try and Vick us out of the money we earned
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Rogeryermaw
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especially since most of us hobby chemists have so little capital to start with. when we manage to get a few dollars for the things we need and some
inconsiderate asshole pulls garbage and sets us back for months or even longer it really boils my piss. boils my piss and makes no phosphorus...
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Rogeryermaw
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update: i tested the POCl3 as follows:
1. place two drops pf POCl3 into test tube.
2. drop three drops of water over the POCl3
3. notice exothermic reaction by warmth of test tube
4. generate NH3 by addition of NaOH to NH4NO3
5. draw evolved ammonia gas into pipette
6. inject ammonia gas over reaction product of POCl3 + H2O
7. observe formation of ammonium chloride fog indicating the presence of HCl gas
POCl3 is hydrolyzed by water to form phosphoric acid and HCl gas.
test was successful.
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aliced25
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Also because so many hobby chemists live in asshole Countries or States and would prefer to cop the scam on the chin than involve LE (because if they
do, they will be charged and have to prove they aren't producing anything illegal, their chemicals, solvents and glass will all be confiscated and
they will never see them again). Not a bad scam really, reminds me of the Ass-dildo scam on Lock-Stock and Two-smoking barrels
From a Knight of the Realm: "Animated movies are not just for kids, they're also for adults who do a lot of drugs." Sir Paul McCartney
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Fantasma4500
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i really dont see the whole smart idea in scamming chemists.. chemists are usually bright people that can be very creative and get very mad
if i was somewhat near them and knew their adress i would feel highly tempted to put together a package with alot of H2S being released when opened,
perhaps abit of smoke for extra effect.. 
but thats just their luck im not in your shoes.. (:
why dont we start an scam-sites thread or something alike, approval/disproval thread for these kinds of ''salesmen''?
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