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shocked.gif posted on 21-5-2011 at 08:57
hard to find chemical


hi
recently i have find this website
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com
they selling rare chemical i need and i am wondering if someone on that board have readily buy chemical from them
or if someone know a compagnie that can sell similaire chemical
and possibility to buy wihout being a school

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[*] posted on 21-5-2011 at 09:28


What is your rare chemical? I may be able to find an alternate site for it.

[Edited on 21-5-2011 by LanthanumK]
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[*] posted on 21-5-2011 at 09:31


the chemical is

4-(N,N-dimethylamino)butanal dimethyl acetal


if someone can find that please tell me

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[*] posted on 21-5-2011 at 10:36


If it's sumatriptan you're interested in, it's available on prescription for relief of migraine . . .
I noticed (diethyl) was changed to dimethyl!

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[*] posted on 21-5-2011 at 10:44


actualy its not sumatriptan
here a link about the chemical .. i was talking about

http://www.tciamerica.com/catalog/D3535.html
for more information

its a simpler chemical and they din't have indole ring or other thing like that
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[*] posted on 22-5-2011 at 16:20


here a image of the structure
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[*] posted on 23-5-2011 at 19:35


You might be able to open up THF or a similar compound with dimethylamine, then oxidize the alcohol and make the acetal. Or perhaps take the 1, 4-dihydroxy-tetrahydrofuran, and react with dimethylamine and then ethanol. This is not going to be an easy thing to make or stable to keep. The amine might react with the acetal (which is a masked aldehyde) to form the imine, or do rdox chemistry with itself. If you have a Merck index, chck in it for a synthesis reference.

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[*] posted on 23-5-2011 at 20:57


There have got to be more accessible ways to synthesis tryptamines... seriously?!



it's all about chemistry.
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[*] posted on 23-5-2011 at 21:25


Where in the world do you see a tryptamine in what this fellow is asking about?





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[*] posted on 24-5-2011 at 05:10


Quote: Originally posted by Sedit  
Where in the world do you see a tryptamine in what this fellow is asking about?

He's probably seen this: http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/dmten.html
But you are right. The habit of some people to frantically relate *everything* to drugs is disturbing. Drugs cause psychosis - in people not taking them.
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[*] posted on 24-5-2011 at 13:58


i am not sure but maybe

its a possible way to synthetise .. there many error..
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[*] posted on 24-5-2011 at 14:25


The logical way is to make the N,N-dimethylaminobutanal and then convert that in to the dimethyl acetal.
The latter is the most sensitive group so putting it in last is the best decision.
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[*] posted on 27-5-2011 at 22:39
As for buying it...


I tried buying some n-butylferrocene a few years ago. Right off they wanted proof that I was a business. When I made the serious amateur pitch they wanted full lab info, whether I had a fume hood, and waste systems, etc.

It wasn't worth the hassle so I don't know if I could've satisfied them had I tried. My guess is no. Post 9/11 the major companies just don't see the risk/reward being in their favor.

Reading the threads here made me think of one thing. Given the sucking economy lots of small businesses are unfortunately being wiped out. Maybe one could check out their city to find some that are having problems. They may well accept a cash infusion for some chemicals and/or supplies that they no longer need.

Best of luck.
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[*] posted on 29-5-2011 at 04:37


It's one of the largest chem suppliers in the world
I'd think most people not involved with a business would've figured out you need a company letterhead, fax #, and answers to the '20 questions' they throw at you.

it's common sense: if you're a hobby chemist, avoid the large chem suppliers.



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[*] posted on 29-5-2011 at 05:10


Quote: Originally posted by turd  
Drugs cause psychosis - in people not taking them.

Yes turd, that is the heart of the matter for anyone who gives a shit about the evils of prohibition . . .

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