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[*] posted on 19-6-2011 at 22:27


Quote: Originally posted by holmes1880  
I do not have half of your audacity, freedom. Good thing to be armored up for pressing HMTD and do it outside....cause that devil powder can't tolerate even minor friction. What is the capsule made of?


I encase the HMTD in plastic (Think grocery bag plastic.) and just use a casing with like 10 layers of treated paper. The end is sealed with only a few layers of aluminum tape beforehand. This is to give it better contact with the secondary.

Honestly... I literally end up splitting the hardwood dowel and have not gotten it to det yet.

This is with 0.3-0.4g amounts.

[Edited on 20-6-2011 by freedompyro]
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[*] posted on 19-6-2011 at 22:33


Quote: Originally posted by holmes1880  


@Jimbo

Word you're looking for is "impervious" not "impregnated". I really am impervious to accidents because I reduced my tests from 3-4 a day to maybe 1-2 every other month and I don't really make more than 2-3g ETN at a time. I am also the only person on here to successfully implement Dinegar's study on secondary blasting caps. I've just made some necessary modifications. Rosco can't seem to stomach that he himself couldn't do it. :cool:


[Edited on 19-6-2011 by holmes1880]



I think the correct word is irony, but yeah ……who am I to teach an impervious to accidents human being. It's good thing to shrink your ego a little bit, because the bad things happen when you least expect them. The post from Aquaregia did save some fingers and eyes, just because he was generous enough to share his accident. Look in your favorite YTube. Almost every genius out there melted or burned nitric esters to impress the audience. Did you get the message?

If I remember correctly you asked something about “Nitromethane Sensitizers and Det Cord”……Yes, I do have some experience with PLX, but now….. I’m feeling so stupid that I completely forgot the exact formulation….Stupid, stupid me……


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[*] posted on 19-6-2011 at 23:43


I do hardly doubt anything was saved by anyone. Folks who cast ETN in an unsafe manner also work with primaries, which are far more treacherous and are #1 cause of all accidents. In fact, acquaregia is the only person who managed to work up an ETN accident....and I've heard of a quite a few accidents.

Don't try to be a wise guy, you have nothing to offer. I've tested various cords about 2 weeks ago and I don't care much for PLX as it's useless in nylon tubing in small diameters. Fine ammonal powder has shown to be a more effective det-cord material.. I just don't care for its cost or time it takes to make it.
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[*] posted on 19-6-2011 at 23:52


@freedom

I am surprised HMTD can take that kind of abuse. I suppose if you eliminate friction and rough spots on the cap, it is plausible, though like you said, expect it to go off. I'd still get nervous as hell, even if I was safe from injuries.
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[*] posted on 20-6-2011 at 00:56


Quote: Originally posted by holmes1880  

Look at you, hoping I injure myself.

Everything becomes dangerous when you throw a retard into the mix. Amen to that.


Jesus, Sherlock, you must really be thick are you? You are right, I did launched this thread wishing for people like you to get injured... I guess it is quite clear to everybody here ;apart from you that is; that I did so in order to, maybe ,prevent someone, somewhere from GETTING INJURED. I should think I did my bit (or tried to), so I'll leave now. And NO, I do not wish for you, or anybody to get injured, regardless of how cocky or pedantical you can be. All I tried to say is that you have the proper "know it all" attitude for something to happen to you. Calling me a retard won't change that. You think yourself smart, but reading your posts, all can see who the retard is here (I also think they tried to tell you but you won't listen).
So, be safe holmes.

Quote: Originally posted by holmes1880  


@Jimbo

Word you're looking for is "impervious" not "impregnated". I really am impervious to accidents because I reduced my tests from 3-4 a day to maybe 1-2 every other month

[Edited on 19-6-2011 by holmes1880]


@quicksilver:
would this need moderation?
@Holmes: "3-4 times a day" YOU REALLY ARE OUR HERO! I do hope you do get a job though;)... But, while very entertaining you're probably not old enough judging from your maturity :(.
bye, and thanks everyone.

[Edited on 20-6-2011 by aquaregia]
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[*] posted on 20-6-2011 at 06:15
[Perhaps] The world is better off without it.




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[*] posted on 20-6-2011 at 09:20


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY4Z76JTVwI A Hundred Thousand Angels

If sooner or later we shall all have opportunity to meet them and count them .....
the point should not be lost that the quality of our choices in life may determine whether that opportunity arises sooner .....or later. No one should be surprised by this.
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[*] posted on 20-6-2011 at 09:42


Jesus, won't this thread die already. Some good tidbits and a whole lotta irrelevant B.S. to sift through.



U.T.F.S.E. and learn the joys of autodidacticism!


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[*] posted on 20-6-2011 at 10:07


This thread should have been locked 3-4 pages ago. The only thing that has come from it is the

1. acquaregia's renewed sense of righteousness for being a genius who roasted ETN in a glass tube
2. rosco's trolling via religious YouTube links
3. wizard posting pretty funny comic book excerpts along with Encyclopedia Britannica
4. jimbo jones' failed effort at slighting me with his perceived knowledge of PLX
5. my trolling as response to rosco's religious trolling


And all of this pales to utter insignificance in light of the fact that electric blasting caps that I use require no primary.
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[*] posted on 20-6-2011 at 10:36


I can sympathize with aquaregia, this thread reminds me of when I was a kid and
got beat up in school by bully's, then after I would get beat up for it by my dad.

_ and on the religious theme, to all the Mary Poppins posters ( practically perfect
in every way ), " let he who is without sin cast the first stone ".

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[*] posted on 20-6-2011 at 11:16


Yes... This thread should be locked... Completely pointless! Everyone is going in circles at this point.

[Edited on 20-6-2011 by freedompyro]
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[*] posted on 21-6-2011 at 06:00


Perhaps instead of locking the thread; individuals should be a bit more introspective as to what they post.....? - Just a thought.
Perhaps that's not possible.




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[*] posted on 21-6-2011 at 07:20


Lock it before Rosco becomes more religiously introspective on here.
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[*] posted on 21-6-2011 at 12:26


Here is the ultimate introspective philosophical and pragmatic question .....

When a human being recognizes that there is a god sized hole in their understanding and in their life, upon whom alone should they call to answer
that need, but the only one who can answer?
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[*] posted on 21-6-2011 at 12:59


Roscotoich, you are a crazy Russky. Ex-commie?

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[*] posted on 21-6-2011 at 13:13


Rosco is onto something. Pay attention, my friend....is there anything we really own? ;)

Intelligence can be lost with a knock to the head.

Physical prowess can be lost in a car accident, rendering one quadriplegic.

Wealth can be lost in a Madoff scam.

Friends/family can be lost by age or illness.

When you realise that everything you have can be lost, and indeed will be lost one day, you do realise that there is a gaping God-sized hole in your existence.

If you can relinquish your worldly idols (image, money, power, etc.) and control your fears by realising you really have nothing to lose, you are truly a free man.

In the end we own nothing except what God gives by grace to us. If you want to find God...find one who loves us enough to die for us. All other gods are counterfeit and will turn you into a slave rather than a free man.

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"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep." John 10:11




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[*] posted on 21-6-2011 at 13:30


Quote: Originally posted by IndependentBoffin  
Rosco is onto something. Pay attention, my friend....is there anything we really own? ;) [snip]


My philosophy dobe —

If you are going to play the game you have to know
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2- What are the rules. Can't play if you don't know the rules.
3- What can you win? If the prize isn't big enough - why bother.
1- What can you loose?!

Ever try strangling the chicken - buttoning your shirt
with you non-dominant hand, &c., &c.?

I would without being ad hominem note that I find
the attitude toward safety by some here "juvenile" at best.


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[*] posted on 21-6-2011 at 13:40


Quote: Originally posted by The WiZard is In  

My philosophy dobe —

If you are going to play the game you have to know
three things.

2- What are the rules. Can't play if you don't know the rules.


Love God above all else. Love your neighbour as yourself.

Quote:
3- What can you win? If the prize isn't big enough - why bother.


An eternal inheritance.

Quote:
1- What can you loose?!


An eternally bad neighbourhood.

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Ever try strangling the chicken - buttoning your shirt with you non-dominant hand, &c., &c.?


All the time. I'm ambidextrous :).

Write with l/h, play sports and use mice with r/h. Can swap around but have different styles. E.g. my R/h sabre duelling is fast, powerful and aggressive. L/h is defensive but more precise.

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I would without being ad hominem note that I find
the attitude toward safety by some here "juvenile" at best.


A pediatrician once told me children are incapable of thinking through the consequences of their actions. When exactly they starting putting forethought into their actions varies from individual to individual....indeed it is possible to see adults who are incapable of assessing risk.


[Edited on 21-6-2011 by IndependentBoffin]




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[*] posted on 21-6-2011 at 13:47


If you were to read the last 4 pages of this thread, you wouldn't know what the thread was originally about.

Lockdown. Seriously.
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[*] posted on 21-6-2011 at 21:45


Quote: Originally posted by holmes1880  
If you were to read the last 4 pages of this thread, you wouldn't know what the thread was originally about.

Lockdown. Seriously.
I think perhaps a better plan is for those who care about removal of off-topic replies to set an example by their silence about all but the topic at hand.
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[*] posted on 23-6-2011 at 14:01


Quote: Originally posted by holmes1880  
Shut it, Watson.
Hypocrisy does not flatter you. Neither does posting in anger.
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[*] posted on 23-6-2011 at 15:23


holmes1880, no more posting in this thread. I count 5 off-topic messages from you on the last page alone. Also -- since it seems to have slipped in -- no more off-topic posting from anyone about religious beliefs, how bad this thread is, or anything really other than chemistry and safety.

A reminder for people who thought this thread needed intervention earlier: posting "this thread should be closed" in the thread does not actually summon moderators. Sending a U2U message to a moderator does! Only one person bothered to send me a U2U about the state of this thread.




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[*] posted on 7-7-2011 at 06:27


same sort of thing happened to me once i was barred out on xanax doing a high pressure rxn and boom! bleeding out like a stuck pig.
teach me to do high pressure reactions on xanax.
the emt's were asking all kinds of questions and i was giving evasive answers.
i did'nt get jammed up, came real close.
that notion of being clear minded is very important.

on a related note semtex is an intersting explosive.
the mosad used it against a member of hizbollah by placing a charge in his cellphone and detonating it as soon as he answered the phone.
the result?
his head was blown in half and his fingers wound up as shrapnel in the remander of his gourd.
astonishing what a petn plastic explosive can do in such small amounts.

[Edited on 7-7-2011 by jon]

[Edited on 7-7-2011 by jon]
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[*] posted on 7-7-2011 at 18:06


Quote: Originally posted by jon  

the mosad used semtex against a member of hizbollah by placing a charge in his cellphone and detonating it as soon as he answered the phone.
the result? his head was blown in half...


Such a big deal is made in the American media about muslim terrorists, while the dirty tactics used by Israel go unmentioned. The Israeli government routinely assassinates people in other middle eastern countries they do not like. :mad:

But back to the topic, supposedly nitrate esters, such as ETN, become more sensitive over time (or in direct sunlight) as traces of nitrogen dioxide develop, with the liquid developing a yellowish tinge. Another thing to consider is that if a plastic container containing ETN falls over, it is likely to agitate the liquid enough to mix it with air and form microbubbles that can severely sensitize the compound.




I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people...I'm just saying lets remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.
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[*] posted on 7-7-2011 at 19:28


they all use terrorist tacticts.
isreal is the baddest terrorist behind the u.s.
i'm not siding with the isreali's, oh no.

this is what 6 grams of etn can do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs6sYCQoOJg

[Edited on 8-7-2011 by jon]

don't feel so bad look at this stupid motherfucker recrystalizing etn over an open flame with methanol.
GENIUS!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEYtr1tU66E&NR=1&feat...

[Edited on 8-7-2011 by jon]

this is what a gram can do inside a cellphone against a steel plate.
all i was illustrating is th clever assasination technique of swithching cellphones out loaded with petn/cemtex.
it litterally blows the fingers off and they logde as shrapnel in the skull, it's quite an impresive thing.
enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzPo115Lyto&feature=relat...

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