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[*] posted on 25-10-2012 at 04:24


Quote: Originally posted by hissingnoise  
If spammers were ignored completely they'd soon go away . . .
Seeing their posts get no views would quickly put them off!


These spam posters probably do not know or much care about monitoring their views. Aside from making the account, the posting is probably pretty automated.

Also, even with no replies, these posts crowd out and push down legitimate poster on the Todays Posts view. I don't know about everyone else, but that's how I usually view the board.
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[*] posted on 25-10-2012 at 04:42


Oh, I'd say just enough monitoring goes on to assure them they're not actually wasting their time . . .
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[*] posted on 26-10-2012 at 23:54


Quote: Originally posted by hissingnoise  
If spammers were ignored completely they'd soon go away . . .
Seeing their posts get no views would quickly put them off!


Doesn't work with so called Search Engine Optimizers
They don't care if no-one here reads their posts. That helps them, delaying deletion. Just so long as Google's crawler sees the posts before they get deleted, and PageRank ups the rating of whatever site has its links scattered so liberally in the posting.
We're not the intended market.

[Edited on 27-10-2012 by malcolmf]
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[*] posted on 28-10-2012 at 10:07


Do crawlers and bots produce views? I would think so? Whether they can see anything at all depends on the robots.txt settings and how the server and forum are configured.

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[*] posted on 28-10-2012 at 13:21


i swear i saw a spambot try to answer a member's question instead of it usually being the top post. they are getting smarter and maybe one day they are going to show us how to make nike shoes in a Rb flask.
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[*] posted on 28-10-2012 at 23:42


Quote: Originally posted by cyanureeves  
i swear i saw a spambot try to answer a member's question instead of it usually being the top post. they are getting smarter and maybe one day they are going to show us how to make nike shoes in a Rb flask.


Oh, if only....
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[*] posted on 1-11-2012 at 17:26


How about we make it cost $1 to register? At least we'd be making money to support the site if the spammers continue to create accounts.



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shocked.gif posted on 1-11-2012 at 18:37
Spam slaying code now active


I have written a program that automatically uses spam reports from members to get rid of spam and spammers.

Here's how it works:

Report a spam post and give the reason as "spam." This is what most members already do when reporting spam.

When two trusted members* have reported a post as spam, it will be considered as spam if the spam-poster is less than 30 days old. The vast majority of real spam accounts are this young. I put in this check to prevent people from abusing the spam system by calling real members spammers.

When a post has been determined by the above checks to be spam, all of the spammer's threads and posts are deleted, followed by the spammer account. I rely on multiple independent spam reports to avoid false positives.

A cron job now runs the spam-killing check every 2 minutes.

Note to moderators: sorry for all the spam reports left in your inboxes. I have added some code to remove spam reports that have already been dealt with, but it was not active for the big purge that just ran.

*Members who have previously been good at reporting spam, picked by me from reviewing my spam report U2Us.

[Edited on 7-8-2013 by Polverone]




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[*] posted on 1-11-2012 at 20:14


Oh, whoops. Didn't even see this post.
Still, that program is going to come in real handy if it works. Thanks, Polverone!
Does the program have something to determine if 'spam'' is in the report, or would something like "Spam..." not get through?




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[*] posted on 1-11-2012 at 22:28


Any reported post containing 'spam', by itself or admixed with other words, will count.



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[*] posted on 2-11-2012 at 02:17


Very clever idea, well done.



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[*] posted on 3-11-2012 at 05:33


When GoogleBot sees a post, it checks for keywords and inserts an ad based on that. If a spammer posts a lot of posts of for example web pages, there will sonn be ads on that. That is why Science madness had once gold, silver and platinum prices ads.



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[*] posted on 3-11-2012 at 06:15


Polverone, this is a very good addition to the software. I have been wading through tens of reported posts and lately even through nearly 100 of them because I was a few days offline. Automatic removal of spam is great and if a few spam items remain then that is no problem, those can be handled manually. Now we can focus more on other things like cookery-threads, abuse of energetics and that kind of things :)



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[*] posted on 5-11-2012 at 08:25


It's gone a lot quieter around here.

I noticed one quirk: when a spammer post gets deleted, if they were the last post in a section, they stay listed as the latest post until someone else posts there. As I write this, Honey360 was the most recent post in Forum Matters.
And at the moment, Honey360 is the last poster in Legal and Societal Issues, though that poster seems to have vanished :)
It's not a problem needing fixing, it's nice seeing the ghosts of departed spammers.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2012 at 07:51


I posted 4 spam reports in a row last night. Probably just pissed off some mods. Only certain people can auto-delete reported spam? Guess it would be too easy to abuse otherwise



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[*] posted on 9-11-2012 at 15:15


Quote: Originally posted by mr.crow  
I posted 4 spam reports in a row last night. Probably just pissed off some mods. Only certain people can auto-delete reported spam? Guess it would be too easy to abuse otherwise


You are already on the trusted list of spam reporters. But a second trusted person needs to confirm your report for at least one of those reported spam messages before the messages and spammer will be removed.

Note to mods: you can report a spam post too, and it requires only a single moderator report to delete the spam and spammer. This is faster if you encounter a prolific spammer that needs many posts removed. Within 5 minutes it will all be cleaned up. I never manually delete spam and spammers now, I just report one of the messages myself.

As an additional bonus for moderators, when you let the spam-killing tool work instead of manually deleting posts, it will also remove related unread spam reports from your inbox. You won't need to manually review them only to find they were reporting posts you already deleted.

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[*] posted on 9-11-2012 at 16:50


Quote: Originally posted by Polverone  
As an additional bonus for moderators, when you let the spam-killing tool work instead of manually deleting posts, it will also remove related unread spam reports from your inbox.
It would be great if you could remove the dozen or so outgoing U2U messages to moderators in the reporter's mailbox when spam is deleted. Then there would be zero downside for the reporter.
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[*] posted on 10-11-2012 at 16:06


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[*] posted on 10-11-2012 at 21:05


Quote: Originally posted by Polverone  

You are already on the trusted list of spam reporters. But a second trusted person needs to confirm your report for at least one of those reported spam messages before the messages and spammer will be removed.


Thanks! I always browse the forum at work so I catch quite a bit




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[*] posted on 10-11-2012 at 22:19


Excellent work!



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[*] posted on 11-11-2012 at 07:24


Very good work Polverone. There's just one point I'm a little unsure about. We can report the post by sending a link and labelling as 'spam', but can we also report the user, so that all associated posts are removed? It seems like a quicker solution, as spammers usually post numerous posts at once.



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[*] posted on 13-11-2012 at 01:11


Quote: Originally posted by watson.fawkes  
Quote: Originally posted by Polverone  
As an additional bonus for moderators, when you let the spam-killing tool work instead of manually deleting posts, it will also remove related unread spam reports from your inbox.
It would be great if you could remove the dozen or so outgoing U2U messages to moderators in the reporter's mailbox when spam is deleted. Then there would be zero downside for the reporter.


I think this feature should be working now. Let me know.

Quote: Originally posted by White Yeti  
Very good work Polverone. There's just one point I'm a little unsure about. We can report the post by sending a link and labelling as 'spam', but can we also report the user, so that all associated posts are removed? It seems like a quicker solution, as spammers usually post numerous posts at once.


If one of a user's posts gets confirmed as spam, all of their other posts will be removed before the account is removed, even posts that have not been explicitly reported.




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[*] posted on 13-11-2012 at 03:23


I think it works. I just reported one and right after it said this topic does not exist. This could be coincidental as The_Davster is on.



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[*] posted on 13-11-2012 at 03:36


I did just delete some spam.
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[*] posted on 13-11-2012 at 07:50


Quote: Originally posted by Polverone  
I think this feature should be working now. Let me know.
I'll let you know at the next opportunity to check the new behavior.
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