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[*] posted on 10-10-2012 at 10:03


Today's Ephemera
Read this, if nothing else. It presents the salient, inescapable facts of economics that the media ignores and Wall Street flouts. http://www.cnbc.com/id/49356069

And also, regarding the other side of the coin: http://www.cnbc.com/id/49331167

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…That reflects an imbalance between what skills employers are willing to pay for and the level of skills and education that workers are bringing to the market," said Harry Holzer, a contributor to the Russell Sage Foundation's Future of Work program "It seems like employer demand for skills has increased faster than workers that have those skills and education, ... the level of job vacancies is higher than what it normally would be in a bad jobs market, reflecting the difficulty in matching workers with open slots.”

Time and again in conversations with business executives the talk turns to education and the inability of the system to turn out prospective workers with the right technological know-how to adapt to new demands. But blame also rests on workers who are not doing enough to keep themselves properly trained to face new challenges.

"Employees have to adapt," said Geoff Hoffman, chief operating officer at Chicago-based DHR International, a firm that helps companies find executive-level talent. "The newspapers are going away, the video store went away. Individual businesses always have to make sure you're in the best position to adapt and change. Otherwise, you risk becoming irrelevant."

…In its breakdown of the skills-gap quandary, Deloitte recommended a number of steps policy makers need to take if the chasm is to be filled. They focus on improving education, making regulations more employment-friendly for companies, and streamlining immigration policy so that foreigners trained and educated in the U.S. have the ability and incentive to stay here. Also, the firm endorses encouraging foreign investment in the U.S. by dropping overly restrictive barriers; reforming unemployment insurance to remove disincentives to work; and both protecting intellectual property innovation while simultaneously promoting the flow of ideas through the corporate world. "We have truly reached an inflection point," the Deloitte study said. "Individuals, firms and nations can no longer remain complacent about the talent required to succeed; they must constantly strive to refresh their workforce.

"Public policy cannot solve these issues alone. It can, however, have a huge impact in creating a better environment for talent to thrive in this country, and for America to attract the most talented people in the world to its shores."


AS for the market Art Cashin puts it fairly squarely: http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=3000121488&play=1

@franklyn : I sometimes wonder if anybody actually reads our posts. Are we emitting into a vacuum?

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[*] posted on 11-10-2012 at 01:06


www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-10/global-financial-m...


@DerAlte

" Are we emitting into a vacuum ? "
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kacyzGNSj4

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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 11:36


A quick primer on the extent of debt in the US and how it has changed: watch and digest; be careful not to get vertigo and nausea. -$16,000,000,000,000 or $50K per capita.
Spent on your (?) behalf on foreign wars, ‘green energy’, pork and bridges to nowhere, etc., – and one of the most disgusting presidential campaigns I have had the misfortune to endure.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=3000121896&play=1

In the same vein on a more global view from the man #2 only to Bill Gross:
Central Banks Can't Inflate Market Prices Forever: El-Erian
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49388184

Every Sept I revamp my portfolio. This last YTY riding equities was AOK. I am now reducing both cash and equities and and going all out for income, keeping just a tad above junk bonds. Mainly high yielding preference shares, some foreign bonds and an income fund or two. May change my view after the election.

Last night’s VP debate was a bummer. They traded too many heavily suspect facts on both sides. Low on rhetoric, high on BS.

Have a good weekend,

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[*] posted on 16-10-2012 at 01:10


http://www.atlasshruggedmovie.com/

I don't even know what to think about this...




A word to the wise: NEUROFEEDBACK

http://citizenworks.org/corp/dg/s2r1.pdf
http://www.newscientist.com/mobile/article/mg21228354.500-re...
http://www.shadowstats.com/article/no-414-hyperinflation-spe...

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[*] posted on 17-10-2012 at 12:14


@ DerAlte

- Watch the small video on this page -

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/another-stock-crash-like-19...

Go here to download the paper _
Institutional Investors & Stock Market Volatility
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=442940

It provides useful prognostications such as this _ :D
A single-session drop of at least 20%, for example, is predicted — over long
periods — to occur once every 104 years, on average, but it could happen at
any time. That’s why you always have to prepare for it, because you don’t know
when it will occur.
- and
The National Bureau of Statistics never tells you that a recession has started
until it's over.

Anyway their thesis in part is that very large institutional investors trigger market
selloff. My take is that is the reason we have dark pools , so the big boys can
sell out before the real fun starts.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/roubini-bad-news-for-u-s-gree...

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[*] posted on 17-10-2012 at 15:02


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[*] posted on 18-10-2012 at 01:41


I definitely agree that the rich/powerful control governments but I don't believe they gave us our freedoms to trick us into thinking we are free. Every freedom or right we have was gained through struggle. The rights we have were given because the people in power had no choice. Child-labor laws were won in battle. People had to fight for decent wages. The reason our freedoms and rights are constantly being taken now is, people are complacent. And they are complacent because, for a long time, we have been somewhat free. Most people think it will always be this way because they don't remember how it use to be. Democracy is a good idea. It's capitalism that sucks.

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[*] posted on 20-10-2012 at 04:37


What we got here is . . . failure to communicate!
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[*] posted on 20-10-2012 at 15:12


@ hissingnoise

" taking it off boss "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u-I0D9ReqI

Read lower half of this post _
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=12819#...

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[*] posted on 21-10-2012 at 22:12


@hisser & franklyn,

It is not the failure of syntax and semantics that plagues Mr. Danny Crawford (alias Moustaffa Krap). Rather it is the mental fog caused by certain aspects of religion. Brains liberally washed by ancient sayings and writings accepted as truth, have neither cognition nor any sense of reality.
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Re last Tuesday’s Presidental Debate: Obama, nil; Romney, nil. Boredom 2… I was reminded of Mark Twain’s quote “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
And his other, slightly modified: “ Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a politician . But I repeat myself.”

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http://www.theamericanright.com/forums/forum.php
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[*] posted on 24-10-2012 at 09:53


It is very difficult to restrain from political comment at this critical time in the nation’s history, so although I may be breaking rules a shade, I have to refer you to the following:

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/24/14664931-ind...

This type of antediluvian thinking of many evangelists on the right beggars the imagination and is one reason I am unable to consider voting for any such politician. From the Constitutional separation of church and state, religion should have no part in US politics. A man’s religion is his own and he is entitled to it, but a statement of this nature labels him as a fool and unfit for office.

The laws of all nations, since time immemorial, have regarded rape as a crime, as evil. A god that condones evil in any form, a god you must fear, instigator of earthquakes, tornadoes for the’good’ of mankind or for his own secret purposes never knowable to mankind, is perhaps the god of the apeman swinging bare-assed through the trees, but not of the thinking man of the 21st century.

I can compare this fundamentalist attitude to the zeal of the benighted Taliban attempting to kill that young Pakistani girl; that disgusted even moderate Muslims.

Epicurus and later Lucretius held the agnostic view that god(s) may exist but we have no evidence that they make one whit of difference to either man’s actions nor his fate. That was over 2000 years ago. About time makind caught up with this view, IMHO. Keep your religion out of politics.

I find Romney’s Mormonism strange to understand but in an intelligent man but I can accept a few encentricities inculcated in early childhood . Likewise Obama has managed to avoid the obligatory infusion of religion into the debates and his campaign.
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This guarded optimism from two captains of industry is refreshing:
Immelt:
'Get It Done,' Immelt Tells DC on Fiscal Cliff Fix
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49533285

Buffet:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=3000124720&play=1
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=3000124722&play=1
There’s a whole heap of Buffet comments on this page : http://www.cnbc.com/id/15839263

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[*] posted on 26-10-2012 at 11:55


The mean value of the Nasdaq ( 2009 low 340 ) + this year's high 860 ,
divided by 2 is 600 , the exact low value last October , a 25 % drop from
where we now are. Are we in for a reprise of last fall. Note the double dip
before the October low last year. Are we there now. You'll note also the
200 day moving average was touched first before then also. (Red circles)

[file]20806[/file]

Manufacturing orders which have been dropping all year , exactly mirror
stock values , dropping in step from the peak in the 2000 dot com bubble
and then again in the 2008 Real estate crash. Any guesses where we
might be in 2013.

[file]20808[/file]

Regardless who wins the presidency I expect the characteristic year end
rally with Treasury bonds cheapening and I will buy Calls then for mid 2013
expiration. Meantime I'm still eyeing Puts if bonds jerk up again for a bit.
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/fund/tlt ( select 6m view below )

http://seekingalpha.com/article/956851-making-a-case-for-u-s...

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Mother nature says Happy Halloween

http://t.news.msn.com/us/east-coast-braces-for-monster-frank...

It's not often that a storm changes the landscape
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_New_England_hurricane

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This video is food for thought worth consideration on its merits
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So, rosco, I sense a vote for freedom coming on. Do you live in a state where your vote matters? Unfortunately, my state (NJ) will vote the lemming line regardless of any logic or evidence.
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Yes I live in a state that wants to check government with sane fiscal limits instead of sending it a check and telling it to run all our lives as it pleases since it must know what's best for all of us. There is plenty of good reason to believe it is the nanny state that needs adult supervision and not the other way around. Government has gotten way out of hand and become an unruly servant, an ambitious master who can't even do basic arithmetic, and liberty and prosperity for most people has suffered. It would seem even the most hardcore socialists would understand that is the reality but they have put on blinders or just don't care. The energy cost is central and really I don't think it has gotten the prioritizing it deserves by either party, but clearly one party does understand that definitive aspect better than the other. The restrictor plate needs to be removed from the energy industry because that industry is literally what fuels the economy. Getting back to cheap abundant fuel and electricity is an absolute requirement and understanding that reality will be the 'genetic marker" for the economic survivors in the times of tribulation that are to come for having too long pursued a counterintuitive strategy. The breeder reactor technology has to be advanced along with everything else in energy technology but the money has to be spent wisely not thrown away on what doesn't produce a guaranteed and reliable return. To make that happen a bona fide businessman needs to be chief executive, for practical reasons that is just the bottom line. So we have a business competency choice to make not a social political ideology choice.

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[*] posted on 1-11-2012 at 19:25


Quote: Originally posted by Rosco Bodine  
Getting back to cheap abundant fuel and electricity is an absolute requirement and understanding that reality will be the 'genetic marker" for the economic survivors in the times of tribulation that are to come for having too long pursued a counterintuitive strategy.


People should better think about how to save energy rather than increasing the consumption. What do you see in the future?
Endless growth doesn't work in a world with limited resources. That's why the picture below is not correct. The Republicans are not really good in math.

Quote: Originally posted by Rosco Bodine  
Regarding fiscal realism and the need for government operating budgets .....

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There simply is no factual basis for your assertion regarding conservation of energy. What I see in the future if alarmists and fanatics have their way is global catastrophe which has nothing to do with climate change. Engineering a Malthusian catastrophe and economic disaster is NOT the intelligent counter-measure for its avoidance and that is no theory. But that counter-intuitive proposition is the theory which is advanced by the "conservationists" and social utopianists who have bracketed themselves and wrapped themselves in "green movement" and "social justice" propaganda that is their brand label which sells to "visionary" ideologues who are NOT practical men and who are NOT businessmen and NOT economists and I would submit are NOT scientists either. They are lying politicians and propagandists who have misled too many people down a primrose path of change for the worse. Do the math. I have.
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[*] posted on 2-11-2012 at 09:36


What has until recently been , the " underdeveloped " world , is developing
at a rapid rate. Per capita wealth of the part of the world population which is
many times larger than the that of the developed western world , threatens
to relegate western dominion of the world economy to it's regional sphere.
The bickering of our national parties is the same as it is over in Europe , who
is going to have the shitty end of the stick. That's the sticking point , since in
the U.S. at least since Franklin Roosevelt the tradition of bettering the plight
of the disadvantaged is in striking contrast to that other democracy India
where the well to do don't even need to step over those who literally live on
the sidewalk because they ride in airconditioned chauffer driven late model
cars. The claim of vote for me and I will let you have your rights again is
very suspect.

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Following up on this previous post
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=17281&...

The European Central Bank is concerned about adoption of Bitcoin & E-money.
http://www.ecb.int/pub/pdf/other/virtualcurrencyschemes20121...
This all remains a work in progress , still in a virtual venue.
http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
The writing is on the wall , Viva Zapata !
http://reason.com/archives/2012/07/06/alternative-currencies...
http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/alternative-currencie...
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/17/pf/local_currency/index.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/04/spain-euro-free-...
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/08/28-6
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17680904
I can foresee interesting developments as electronic money becomes the
basis of a parallel economy which is not and cannot at present be regulated
except by imposition of sanctions against it. Already in fun loving regions of
the world such as Iran and China , internet access is under surveillance and
restricted. Interfering with a peer to peer network would be another step.
Individuals would be subject to confiscation of their wealth if it cannot be
shown to have been derived in an approved and sanctioned manner. This
is already the case with proceeds derived from illicit commerce such as
drug distribution and attendant money laundering.

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[*] posted on 2-11-2012 at 23:11


Quote: Originally posted by Rosco Bodine  
There simply is no factual basis for your assertion regarding conservation of energy.

Limited resources are not a factual basis?

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ideologues who are NOT practical men and who are NOT businessmen and NOT economists and I would submit are NOT scientists either.

It's the NATURE of a politician to be an ideologue. It doesn't matter to which party he belongs, Democrats AND Republicans are idologues. It's true that only scientists can give good advice. But it has to be a consensus of ALL scientific disciplines, not only economists. Otherwise it would be an incomplete, one-sided und thus wrong way.

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Do the math. I have.

I didn't claim that you haven't. But the Republicans have not. I don't see what justifies the picture of a Republican that has a weapon called "math" when you remember this figure:
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Debts of the USA.

Is there ANY indication that Republicans can handle their budget better than Democrats? Definitely not. Debts grow and grow - NO MATTER which party is in power!

Well, probably I'm wrong:

This is 2011. Now there has to be 50% instead of 35% under Obama.

So much about math. :P

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Quote: Originally posted by Pok  
Quote: Originally posted by Rosco Bodine  
There simply is no factual basis for your assertion regarding conservation of energy.

Limited resources are not a factual basis?

In context with your assertion regarding management and stewardship of resources that are finite, while still supporting the economy of an industrialized society, it is not the finite quality of fossil fuels or any other finite resource that is the issue. You are attempting to redefine the argument. It is your assertion about the conservation and mangement that is irrational and lacks depth. This has been discussed at length in this forum. There are sensible and practical solutions to supplying all the energy needs of an industrialized society if the energy production is sensibly managed and the carbon footprint overall can be reduced even with increased energy production and usage. Conservation that is penny wise and pound foolish and that is destructive to the economy and destructive to society is not something that is useful or constructive simply because it placates the simplememinded demands of environmentalist fanatics. With regards to the industrialized world, the businessmen (and their engineers) have a business to run and the governments and fanatics need to get the hell out of the way and stay the hell out of the way. Only a moron would not understand that.
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ideologues who are NOT practical men and who are NOT businessmen and NOT economists and I would submit are NOT scientists either.

It's the NATURE of a politician to be an ideologue. It doesn't matter to which party he belongs, Democrats AND Republicans are idologues. It's true that only scientists can give good advice. But it has to be a consensus of ALL scientific disciplines, not only economists. Otherwise it would be an incomplete, one-sided und thus wrong way.

It certainly does matter which ideology is in play for a political party when one party is overtly pursuing a SUBVERSIVE agenda which is destructive to the republic and to the economy in ways that are unprecedented and that has been occurring. The level of corruption and lying that has been advanced is astonishing. A government operating without a congressionally approved budget is not a legitimate government IMO because it violates the taxation without representation prohibition which was one of the basic issues that was cause for the American Revolution as a non negotiable DEMAND of the people. No budget - no legitimate government. It really is that simple. I see below you have provided a falsified accounting straight from the "dear leaders" propaganda ministry. Your last column figures are about as credible as the past six weeks of media disinformation and propaganda about the Benghazi embassy terrorist attack ......all of it LIES, damn lies, and more lies.
There is more than just executive incompetence in play behind the scenes of that and other national security and other security related matters. There is revealed in such matters a clear inference of unlawful collusion with foreign powers which is contrary to the interests and represents a threat to the security of the United States. That is even beyond dereliction of duty and fully into the realm of treason.
How's that for "ideology".
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Do the math. I have.

I didn't claim that you haven't.

You are about to do that now and show bogus figures to try to make the argument. Clinton set up the subprime mortgage crisis which eclipses and skews the figures describing the ACTUAL "fiscal performance" of the Clinton administration. Adjusted to conform to REALITY your chart below would look very different. And since there has been NO OPERATING BUDGET for the United States government during the ENTIRE four years of the lawless Obama administration there is ZERO credibility or veracity about ANY figures which are published. There is no reason to believe anything that comes out of the mouth of Barry Soetoro or Hussein Benghazi Obama or whatever else anyone may want to call that Chicago Tiger Woods on the Potomac.
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But the Republicans have not. I don't see what justifies the picture of a Republican that has a weapon called "math" when you remember this figure:

Debts of the USA.

Is there ANY indication that Republicans can handle their budget better than Democrats? Definitely not. Debts grow and grow - NO MATTER which party is in power!

Well, probably I'm wrong:

This is 2011. Now there has to be 50% instead of 35% under Obama.

So much about math. :P

[Edited on 3-11-2012 by Pok]


Yeah so much for the "math" that cooks the books. That is not exactly CPA or accurate material charted there.

All you "progressive" (subversive) propagandists really should give it a rest. People are wise to what is going on with the fifth column Marxists calling themselves "Democrats" who are trying to destroy the republic and "good Americans" are simply not going to have it. What generations of Americans have built is not going to be liquidated in service of what a bunch of communists think is "social justice" or is a subversive agenda advanced under any other false flag like "diversity' or "affirmative action" or "environmentalism". Americans by and large are tired of the propaganda CRAP and want leadership having some business sense who can take care of business.
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All you "progressive" (subversive) propagandists really should give it a rest.

The VIDEOS and PICTURES that you are posting throughout this thread - THAT is propaganda. Emotions, not facts.

I showed DATA. You did not.

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Fox News anchor Heather Childers caused a stir on Twitter after she linked to a story suggesting that the Obama campaign may have threatened to murder Chelsea Clinton.

On Tuesday, Childers, who is a weekend and early morning anchor for the network, tweeted an article from godfatherpolitics.com titled, "Did Barack Obama Campaign Threaten Life of Chelsea Clinton to Keep Parents Silent on Obama’s Ineligibility?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/03/heather-childers-co...

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Most people in the US, especially Democrats, believe that the Obama Birther Movement was started by Republicans and or the Tea Party. They believe it is a smear campaign aimed to tarnish the image of their hero of change. But they may be shocked to learn that the Birther Movement was actually started by former President Bill Clinton and Hillary back in 2008.

Bettina Viviano was a vice president with Amblin Enterntainment, Steven Spielberg’s company, before launching her own film production company in 1990. In 2008, Viviano was asked to produce a documentary about voter fraud within the Democratic Party. At the time, she says she was not a Democrat or a Republican and in fact had never voted in an election. She went into the project with the sole purpose of producing the best and most accurate documentary possible.

During the documentary process, Viviano says that she quickly became aware of just how dangerous and insidious the Obama campaign was. A number of the Democrats she interviewed refused to appear on camera and told her that their lives and property had been threatened by people working with the Obama campaign.

She also heard former President Bill Clinton say that Obama was not eligible to be president because of his lack of birth records. In fact, she said it was common knowledge around many top Democrats. Bill Clinton has often said that he would go public with the information when the time was right.

Before that could happen, his close friend and head of the Arkansas Democratic Party, Bill Gwatney was murdered in his office and then someone told Bill that he was next if he said anything about Obama’s eligibility. In the video below, she said that Clinton was not intimidated until someone associated with the Obama campaign told him that his daughter Chelsea would be next if he opened his mouth. From that point on, the Clinton’s remained silent about Obama’s birth certificate or lack thereof.

http://godfatherpolitics.com/4506/obama-campaign-threaten-li...
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All you "progressive" (subversive) propagandists really should give it a rest.

The VIDEOS and PICTURES that you are posting throughout this thread - THAT is propaganda. Emotions, not facts.

I showed DATA. You did not.

[Edited on 3-11-2012 by Pok]


Show one Congressionally approved operating budget for the U.S. ...show just one of those budgets which are required by law, that has been presented and approved for the present administration ...There should be 4 of them. Let me save you the trouble ....there isn't one because there has never been one, not the first of four there should be and have been for every other president.

Look at the left bottom of your chart "Office of the Democratic Leader"

Your "data" is misleading and incorrect. It is disinformation.
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[*] posted on 3-11-2012 at 16:34


Quote: Originally posted by Rosco Bodine  
Look at the left bottom of your chart "Office of the Democratic Leader". Your "data" is misleading and incorrect. It is disinformation.


:D Didn't you say that you have done the math? Read the y-axis. This figure is a simple calculation of the one above! People who know percentage calculation don't care about the source of the second figue. Read the first figure, use a calculator and - what a surprise - you will get the same data like the evil Democrats.




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