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[*] posted on 19-1-2012 at 13:11
Megaupload down


Megaupload, the site many of us here use to exchange data, especially on the fire project, was taken down today by the Department of Justice. 7 people in charge of the website were charged with piracy. Megaupload has always been DCMA compliment, removing anything requested. I guess the US doesn't feel like waiting for SOPA.

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[*] posted on 19-1-2012 at 13:41


Motherfuckers.. Who gave them the right to do so? They do not own internet. This is the end of internet liberty, guys :/



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[*] posted on 19-1-2012 at 13:43


Quote: Originally posted by hkparker  
Megaupload, the site many of us here use to exchange data, especially on the fire project, was taken down today by the Department of Justice.
Charged in the Eastern District Court in the US (Virginia). Arrested in New Zealand.

Anyone outside the US that thinks the PIPA/SOPA controversy is solely a US matter is deluding themselves.
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[*] posted on 19-1-2012 at 14:30


Copyright infringement is basis for extradition now. You are not safe oversees.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/01/copyright-infringement-tv-sh...




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[*] posted on 19-1-2012 at 15:34


Sad, they hosted alot of interesting ebooks.

Looks like the time of the free internet slowly goes by, in the future there're probably more decentralized things like DHT-Torrents, privately owned FTPs and semi-public Dropbox accounts.

Time to get my badass 24Tb RAID6-Array running and backup the stuff I already have.
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[*] posted on 19-1-2012 at 15:36


Russia won't be extraditing anyone, and 4shared seems to have friends filehoster.ru did not. ifile and RS seem to have friends.

The fedgov talking about how much money megaupload was making isn't going to help their cause.




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[*] posted on 19-1-2012 at 16:29


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[*] posted on 19-1-2012 at 19:58


"The Megaupload case is unusual, said Orin S. Kerr, a law professor at George Washington University, in that federal prosecutors obtained the private e-mails of Megaupload’s operators in an effort to show they were operating in bad faith."

“The government hopes to use their private words against them,” Mr. Kerr said. “This should scare the owners and operators of similar sites.”

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[*] posted on 19-1-2012 at 20:28


Is the DOJ hiring specifically for these sorts of projects? I have a friend who's worked a long time to keep pushing a boulder up a hill after it rolls down. This would be perfect for him, a change of scenery but the same skills.



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[*] posted on 19-1-2012 at 21:00


"The problem is that policing these sites is almost impossible, regardless of the law in the United States. When a pirate site is found and scoured from Google, it will only reappear hours later with a new name and address."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/...
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[*] posted on 19-1-2012 at 21:34


Rest in peace MEGAUPLOAD. Tons of very good books and documents woudnt be possible without you. My brain cells thank their existence and mourn its fall.

Quote: Originally posted by Morgan  
"The problem is that policing these sites is almost impossible, regardless of the law in the United States. When a pirate site is found and scoured from Google, it will only reappear hours later with a new name and address."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/...


The problem is arising aroung google itself now.. People find download sites (and just everything else) on google and other search engines.. If law attacks just it, how could you find these sites? Its that way they were planning.. They cant just wait to control your web search too.







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[*] posted on 20-1-2012 at 09:52


http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/oouwm/can_someone...
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[*] posted on 20-1-2012 at 10:25


Thank you for that, good to get another perspective.

Speaking of reddit, I found this pretty interesting:

http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/old7e/sopa_is_ba...




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[*] posted on 20-1-2012 at 12:29


I remember reading this long ago, having some reservations about the site whether true or not.

Criticism
In January 2011, MarkMonitor published a report entitled "Traffic Report: Online Piracy and Counterfeiting", which claimed that Megaupload and Megavideo were, along with RapidShare, the top three websites classified as "digital piracy".[15] Megaupload responded by stating: "Activity that violates our terms of service or our acceptable use policy is not tolerated, and we go to great lengths to swiftly process legitimate DMCA takedown notices".[16]

"Megaupload Toolbar was claimed to redirect users to a custom error page when a 404 error occurs in the user's browser. It was also claimed to contain spyware.[17] However, FBM software claimed that the Megaupload toolbar is free of spyware.[18]"
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[*] posted on 23-1-2012 at 17:26


The folks of 'anonymous' group that attacked several SOPA favourable sites after megaupload fall now created the "anonyupload":

http://www.anonyupload.com/

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For your safety, our infrastructure will be out of the U.S jurisdiction ( Russia ).


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Special Thanks to mister DotCom

Thank you DotCom for the past years of services.
We hope you'll be released as soon as possible.
Try to not make that amount of money next time, and it should be alright.


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Why shouldn't I only use anonyupload.com?

Anonyupload.com is a centralized service, when you upload files, they are stored in our hard drives, at a single location. And this is not good! It is the opposite of what the Internet is: decentralized. The internet is a worldwide interconnected computer network, when your computer is connected to the Internet (not ChinaNet) it can communicate with any other machine also connected to the Internet and so this machine can also communicate with you, if you allow it to do so. If you only visit website such as facebook.com, twitter.com or anonyupload.com you are always communicating with the same machines! That's not good!

There are many reasons why this is not good, the first is that some of you store personal information and files on machines which are not belonging to you, and that you do not have any control on. The second is that you are always going through the same wires, it means that someone could spy on it, monitors your activities, or decides to cut it off as it happened with megaupload.com. This can be avoided by using decentralized technologies, the first thing to do if you are interested in doing it, is to host your own content, on your own machines.

If you cannot do that, because you technically do not have the skills, do not want to read how to, or do not have a good enough internet connection, take a look at P2P. Sharing a file through a P2P network will multiply this file significantly, and when someone would want to download it, pieces of the file will be gathered from different machines at the same time to finally rebuild one single file, if some of the machines sharing the file are shut down, it will still be possible for you to get this file, because there are many of them! And we need more!

Finally, if you still want to use services such as anonyupload.com, try to upload your files on the others as well.

There are many other reasons why using a single host is bad, if you have been aware of the megaupload.com story, even though you liked the website, you can see that its owner made much more money than what was required to pay for the infrastructure. Big and centralized websites can make a lot of money just by putting a single advertisement on their pages.

Why anonyupload.com then?

Because it is fun and technically interesting, keep in mind that it does not target to become a replacement to megaupload.com.
If we have a good economic plan with donations, and that we do not fail as soon as the site is launched, we will do our possible to keep expanding it, but let's try to not get into a huge system that only works with money.

Remember, decentralization.




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[*] posted on 23-1-2012 at 17:49


anonyupload seems a little not-legit. I ran a WHOIS and the guys name is listed lives in California. If it truly were an 'anon' site, they would have registered in Russia like they said.



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[*] posted on 23-1-2012 at 18:45


I imagine the music industry doesn't like this. ha
Upload Is Now Launching a Music Service Called MegaBox...
http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2011/111221airviny...

Other assorted tidbits ...
http://gizmodo.com/5877987/the-best-worst-photos-of-megauplo...
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http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/playboy-lifestyle-prison-cel...
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[*] posted on 23-1-2012 at 18:55


Yeah, you may be right. I have seen it on another forum, and people claimed that even with '.com' it was based on another country, but this was not the case on another whois machine, here:

http://whois.domaintools.com/anonyupload.com

But since I dont know the 'hidden web secrets' and anonymous guys are hacks, there is a possibility that they could just addapt this site to give false reading on these WHOIS machines, but I dont know.




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[*] posted on 24-1-2012 at 00:27


Its possible. In other news, the crackdown on filesharing sties often used for legitimate purposes is quite extensive:


(from reddit)

MegaUpload - Closed.
FileServe - Closing, does not sell premium.
FileJungle - Deleting files. Locked in the U.S.
UploadStation - Locked in the U.S.
FileSonic - the news is arbitrary (under FBI investigation).
VideoBB - Closed! Will disappear soon.
Uploaded - Banned in the U.S. and the FBI went after the owners who are gone.
FilePost - Deleting all material (will leave executables, pdfs, txts)
Videoz - Closed and locked in the countries affiliated with the USA.
4shared - Deleting files with copyright and waits in line at the FBI.
MediaFire - Called to testify in the next 90 days and it will open doors. Pro FBI
Org Torrent - Could vanish with everything within 30 days "he is under criminal investigation"
Network Share mIRC - Awaiting the decision of the case to continue or terminate Torrente everything.
Koshiki - Operating 100% Japan will not join the SOPA / PIPA
Shienko Box - 100% working China / Korea will not join the SOPA / PIPA
ShareX BR - group UOL / BOL / iG say they will join the SOPA / PIPA


From an EFF member on reddit:

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Megaupload was once held up as an example of why SOPA and PIPA were necessary, yet less than 24 hours after it was indefinitely shelved, the government was able to seize Megaupload's domains and arrest its owners. Remember, they arrested a German and Finnish citizen, in New Zealand, whose company was incorporated in Hong Kong. The U.S. government doesn't need any new laws; they have too much power as it is.


Fact is, nothing about megaupload had to do with the united states (except the data on there being in violation of US copyright). So banning the site in the US seems like an extreme but more fair resolution. Not going oversees to arrest foreign citizens for an offshore site.




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[*] posted on 24-1-2012 at 00:39


Holding people liable for creating ways that other people can freely share information, should be disturbing, as it potentially threatens the freedom of political information.
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[*] posted on 24-1-2012 at 07:20


I wonder if in the far future what it would be like if nearly everything were free, where you only created something because you wanted to and not because you got money for it? Or if some new source of energy came about, how much labor or "purpose" that would knock out.

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[*] posted on 24-1-2012 at 11:37


I think that would give purpose. Now you arn't just working to make money (and at the most basic level, working to survive) but working for what you enjoy and for yourself.



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[*] posted on 24-1-2012 at 16:55


The man, the legend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ltcCF_cAQ




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[*] posted on 25-1-2012 at 11:11


http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/were-just-li...

Reader comments/opinions

"Was the Megaupload takedown an offensive assault on innovators who may have, on a few occasions, done something a tiny bit naughty—or was it a massive Mega-conspiracy worthy of an international police takedown?"
"Isn't this a massive false dichotomy? It seems pretty clear that these guys were making a fortune off the back of someone else's labour (the IP creators). The fact that they also provided a valuable public service (legitimate file sharing) is neither here nor there - you don't get to rob banks just because you sometimes help old ladies across streets."


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"If MegaUpload is YouTube, I was born on Mars. Their lawyer is a classic ACLU type. Kim Dotcom went down how he lived: as an ostentatious Web gangsta who flaunted his alleged law breaking in an egregious manner. He was literally asking for a James Bond style take down. I hope they give him MegaUploads of pizza in jail so he doesn't lose too much of his bulk, or his swagger. I expect his lawyer to make the case that depriving him of the ability to play Modern Warfare will be deleterious to his client's mental health. Have fun, Kim."

"How did that work with prohibition or the endless drug war? This feels on the same level."
"It would make much more sense to me if they went after the folks that caused this economic meltdown that nearly destroyed the country that a few infringers. Who made more money? DotCom or the CEO of Bank of America - oh, but BoA gets a bail out. Flight risk? Heck, Dotcom doesn't even own a jet."

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[*] posted on 25-1-2012 at 12:17


Kim Schmitz is an infamous con artist and, even more seriously, a snitch. In the early 1990ies he sold warez to young people and sold their names to a certain "von Gravenreuth" who in turn extorted money from them/their parents.

Von Gravenreuth commited suicide in 2010 after being (finally!) sentenced to 14 months for fraud.

It is absolutely absurd that affiliates of the Pirate Party would idolize this rat.
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