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[*] posted on 22-10-2017 at 07:15


Quote: Originally posted by Mr.Greeenix  
-Ammonium-dinitroguanidine (ADNQ)
-1,7-diamino-1,7-dinitrimino-2,4,6-trinitro-2,4,6-triazaheptane (APX)


Both Materials possess very good detonation parameters:

APX (Vdet = 9540 m·s–1, pC–J = 395kbar, Qv = –5935 kJ·kg–1)
ADNQ (Vdet = 9066 m·s–1, pC–J = 332 kbar, Qv = –5193 kJ·kg–1),


with moderate safety parameters:

APX: IS ≥ 3 J, FS ≥ 80 N and ESD ≥ 0.1 J
ADNQ: IS ≥ 10 J, FS ≥ 252 N and ESD ≥ 0.4 J,


Two very interesting compounds, however preparing dinitroguanidine seems to be a problem i think.




Nice information thanks...

Strange that they only think to allow monopotassium salt to enter into reaction and not the dipotassium salt... that way you may get other interesting goodies... like imino-RDX if cyclisation or n-poly-ITNTAH (linear poly-imino-trinitro-triazahexane)
See annexed drawing... :);):P
Based onto the density increase effect observed for polymers... one should expect poly-ITNTAH to be denser than APX...but also to display a lower or equal sensitivity to shock...

APX is named by them as 1,7-diamino-1,7-dinitrimino-2,4,6-trinitro-2,4,6-triazaheptane but this could be aswel be named 2,8-diimino-1,3,5,7,9-pentanitro-1,3,5,7,9-pentaazanonane (following me more appropriate) (DIPNPAN)

ClCH2-NNO2-CH2Cl + 2 O2N-NK-C(=NH2(+))-N(+)-NO2 -->
O2N-N(-)-C(=NH2(+))-NNO2-CH2-NNO2-CH2-NNO2-C(=NH2(+))-N(-)-NO2

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[*] posted on 1-3-2018 at 01:37
new EM on Cu - KClO3 base


Some message from research a new energetic material from 16.2.2018
http://sci-hub.tw/https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jacs....

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[*] posted on 4-3-2018 at 20:48


LoL, What does this mean, have you produced it? my chemistry is not well enough...
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[*] posted on 5-3-2018 at 03:15


Haha....not. All news energetics matrials in not from my lab. Preparation is difficult. Only info for someone, for everybody.



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[*] posted on 20-3-2018 at 23:24


Recently I tried to make a methanolic solution of hydrazine mixing hydrazine sulfate and calcium hydroxide in methanol, then filtering. But this way it's difficult to get a concentrated solution due to low methanol volume required. My goal is to sensitized NM.

Could dissolving hydrazine sulfate in sodium methoxide solution and the filtering the sodium sulfate work?
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[*] posted on 21-3-2018 at 00:26


Your goal is some nitromethane gel...reliable sensitive on No.8 ? Or liquide NM as solution ? On No.8 cap sensitive ?



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[*] posted on 21-3-2018 at 12:48


Quote: Originally posted by Laboratory of Liptakov  
Your goal is some nitromethane gel...reliable sensitive on No.8 ? Or liquide NM as solution ? On No.8 cap sensitive ?


My goal is a PLX-type liquid exposive, capable of detonation by 0.5 grams MHN. I hope something like 90% NM/10% hydrazine solution in methanol works.
For sensitizing NM, there are cheaper amines like hexamine, I tried but it requires a big booster. I even tried sensitizing NM with sodium nitrite, just for fun, and also failed.
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[*] posted on 22-3-2018 at 00:40


You can try this gel. Nitrocellulose (12,4N+) 10%, ( 8 -15) microballoons 2% (1 -
3) aluminium bright type for colors 5%. (5 -10). + NM 80 %. Were tested again and again without fails. From 0,3g ETN.




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[*] posted on 23-3-2018 at 12:33


Quote: Originally posted by Laboratory of Liptakov  
You can try this gel. Nitrocellulose (12,4N+) 10%, ( 8 -15) microballoons 2% (1 -
3) aluminium bright type for colors 5%. (5 -10). + NM 80 %. Were tested again and again without fails. From 0,3g ETN.


Thank you, very useful!
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[*] posted on 31-1-2019 at 09:50
CHC77


New energy material based on tetraamine copper chlorate was discovered. His working name is CHC77. It contains the main propellant, namely [Cu (NH3) 4] (ClO3) 2 + Hexamine + NH4ClO3. The detonation pressure of CHC77 is comparable to CHP, , which is a working mark for copper hexamine perchlorate [Cu (NH3) 4] (ClO4) 2 + hexamine + NH4ClO4. Stability and other CHC77 parameters will be further investigated. CHC77 has a detonation pressure of 25 GPa. If it turns out to be safe to handle, prepare, its advantage lies in the availability of the base precursors, which are NH4NO3 + NaClO3......:cool:....LL



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[*] posted on 6-2-2019 at 11:29


http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Discovery_could_lead_to_mu...


https://web.stanford.edu/group/zheng/pages/research-combusti...

Article does not give much details. Another reference listed the graphene oxide in amounts of 3-20percent, which for a catalyst seems far far too much. Who cares if the AL burns better at 20 percent GO.... because you now have 20 percent less oxidizer.

Does anyone here have GO? Maybe give this a try add 10 percent in standard flash and see what happens? If this makes micron Al act like nano... then it’s huge!!
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[*] posted on 7-2-2019 at 04:54


Onyx Met is preparing an order for me. They have GO.

The only thing I am unsure of is the particle size. The density announced (0,15 to 0,25) doesnt convince me it'll be usable.
Truth is I fear the particles will be bigger than the AL and wont coat anything.

If you have suggestions I can ask them to add 1 gram of GO to my order and give it a try.
I was going to try Zr flash already :D
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[*] posted on 9-2-2019 at 00:25


Why Zr flash, you know Zr compositions are herendously sensitive?

Well. Go for it... although my understanding is micron Al already burns completely before 6 expansions. So GO is probably not needed. It makes me confused.
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[*] posted on 9-2-2019 at 15:28


I understand Zr compositions are mostly sensitive to static.

Anyway, no answer so far about the GO particle size and I really doubt I could know if the metal was properly coated or coated at all.
Not much incentive to get a reagent as expensive as gold :o
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[*] posted on 11-2-2019 at 00:04


Well. You could grind it between two plates and reduce to nano size....

In the article they hail this as cheaper than Al nano.... huhuh. Far from it! There MUST be SOME catylist out there that can make micron sized fuels (1-5um) act like nano fuels (100nm). PTFE certainly works with boron because the metal fluoride becomes gaseous.

In fact they are starting to coat metal powders in Teflon, which is both obvious plus genius.

I would think a small percentage of nano graphene would make pyrotechnic and explosive compositions less sensitive, as it is a very good conductor and might be able to conduct heat from friction and impact away fast enough?

Anyone with nano graphene want to try adding it to a notoriously sensitive composition??
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cool.gif posted on 23-4-2019 at 11:27


This is aminoguanidine bicarbonate nickel perchlorate.double salt... first mentioned by tetrazolelover. We all know what it whould do when compressed in a small tube..

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[*] posted on 23-4-2019 at 23:40


Quote: Originally posted by snooby  
This is aminoguanidine bicarbonate nickel perchlorate.double salt... first mentioned by tetrazolelover. We all know what it whould do when compressed in a small tube..


Yes. Tetrazolelover is one of the best.. his creativity, inventiveness, and research is astounding. Him and LL have given this comminuty a new life in my opinion. It’s too bad the posters of old like Axt, Rbick, PHILOU and others are not around to witness this. Especially those from the Rouge Science.... Research cannot take place without a reliable detonator. Both have contributed enormously to this. It pains me in someways because now, anyone can jump into this field without extensive research. But it’s just a matter of time untill advanced knowledge creates shortcuts for the lazy, careless and those whom want to harm others. Therefore. They are still pioneers. TL is focused more on exoctic compounds while LL follows Einstein’s rule. Both are necessary I believe.
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[*] posted on 24-4-2019 at 01:04


Huh....Thanks, MineMan....You can write quality speeches at international level. Like the United Nations Forum....:cool:...LL



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[*] posted on 25-4-2019 at 10:26


In the post above hammertest. Later it did detonate, but it took serious blows ( read: destroyed my concrete) before it would detonate.

Later flame test again, its so sensitive that a hot wire could set it off. A spark of flam will sett it off as a quick as nitrocellulose. Sorry for low quality video, I had to decrease the size from 140 mb to 8 mb.

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Last image, 40 or 50 mg in alu tube (4mm outer diameter). Just fuse inserted, closed with piece of paper... def detonation, that pieec of steel is quite strong, read not bendable with strong hand



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[*] posted on 25-4-2019 at 19:40


I have now a gram of 4. My idea is to store it under some wasbenzine, some like white spirit. It this a good idea? Dont think it it was harm it
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[*] posted on 25-4-2019 at 23:18


Snobby. Although this is a less sensitive primary, it still is a primary. I would recommend doing smaller batches. I see you have 30ml of liquid. Keep it down to 5ml. Sensitivity goes way up with larger quantity. My hammer tests showed that.
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[*] posted on 26-4-2019 at 22:17


@snooby ...Steel is 1,5 - 2 mm of thickness estimating. If only 50 mg causes deformation is it full detonation. It seems on good EM. With beauty color. On air only deflagration, next good properties. Maybe is time try on air 100mg and 200 mg. With ear plugs, long heat flame rod and etc.
How to call...?. AGBNP...?:...Amino..Guanidine...Bicarbonate....Nickel...Perchlorate...?...:cool:....(Mad formula......:D)
For example, CHP at 100mg in Alu foil confinement (10 layers) deflagrate only, but at same conditions at 200mg detonated.
Your AGB require next attempts...Any way, Great research, thanks for sharing and videos....:cool:...LL




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[*] posted on 27-4-2019 at 13:25


Today i tested with petn, succes. But im still veryyy cautious, nobody have experience with it....
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[*] posted on 27-4-2019 at 23:06


Quote: Originally posted by Laboratory of Liptakov  
@snooby ...Steel is 1,5 - 2 mm of thickness estimating. If only 50 mg causes deformation is it full detonation. It seems on good EM. With beauty color. On air only deflagration, next good properties. Maybe is time try on air 100mg and 200 mg. With ear plugs, long heat flame rod and etc.
How to call...?. AGBNP...?:...Amino..Guanidine...Bicarbonate....Nickel...Perchlorate...?...:cool:....(Mad formula......:D)
For example, CHP at 100mg in Alu foil confinement (10 layers) deflagrate only, but at same conditions at 200mg detonated.
Your AGB require next attempts...Any way, Great research, thanks for sharing and videos....:cool:...LL


LL. This is the most potent primary I am aware of outside of tetrazoles...

1mg is deafening when slowly heated with Al. The worse part is preparation is too easy, I wish this primary was reserved for the more skilled only. But. Alas, this is how God made the world.

The peculiar thing is this primary produces a very bright flash upon detonation, can anyone say why?? Almost like acetylene burning in oxygen.

The next step that someone needs to try is adding ammonium perchlorate until OB and then coating the resulting mix with steric acid for reduced sensitivity.
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