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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 09:21
interesting sep. funnel adaptation


hello,
last week some of my new toys arrived :)
a 50 cm vigreux column and a few sep. funnels.
the interesting thing is that the sep. funnels have a small horizontal groove in the ground glass top, just deep enough to make a small opening, end the stoppers have a vertical groove from the bottom to the middle. it took me a while to figure out what they were, but then when i was washing them it cane to me! if you align the two cuts they form a small opening so that air can get in the body of the sep. funnel so that the liquid inside can drain out. and if you want to invert it you turn the stopper so that the cuts are not aligned and it's water/chemical proof.

Has anybody come across this before?

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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 09:32


Pretty cool euh? Sep funnels have come a long way :)
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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 09:32


Yea, I once had a few density bottles that had them. I only noticed it until the iodine I had in one of them started coming out of the opening!



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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 09:44


I wonder if the intended purpose of the adaptation is to prevent pressure build up from volatile solvents and gas-evolving reactions during shaking. An adaptation to save one the effort of taking the stopper out seems a little excessive!



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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 12:04


nope dave angel. whatever you are using would leak out. I think it is so you can let something drain out without taking out the stopper. for something like, say:Br2



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[*] posted on 13-10-2012 at 11:24


Yep, we got a few like that in the lab, but I never liked to work with them.... If you work fast and you miss the right position then your reaction could easily end on you.



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[*] posted on 13-10-2012 at 11:45


odd. seems an eastern european thing. i got these from poland. nobody else seems to have heard of them!



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[*] posted on 13-10-2012 at 20:24


I kind of like it. Don't have to take the stopper off while separating. But then again there are two things to screw up instead of one (the stopcock being open).

That cut in the glass looks really nasty and would weaken the joint. Don't want the top snapping off while using it!

My 1L crummy Bomex funnel was advertised as having something like that but didn't. Maybe the ebay store changed their supplier.




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[*] posted on 19-10-2012 at 07:31


Cute, I have seen similar things a few times before, but not often, and mostly on custom made items. But this one is different that what I have seen, which is usually two holes that have to line up. A few glass stopcocks I have seen have those types of holes drilled into the stopcock itself, I guess to make a 3 way from a 2 way or such.
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[*] posted on 19-10-2012 at 07:39


True Mr crow. But luckily you don't put the joint of a sep funnel under extreme conditions like you would a distillation joint, so i hope i will be fine.
but i am quite pissed off at the seller for selling these as new, but it was less than 10$ for two so even if I lose them I will be ok.




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[*] posted on 24-10-2012 at 23:48


Useless, gas is evacuated from the main valve just bringing the funnel upside down.
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[*] posted on 26-10-2012 at 07:34


we (at least I did) meant when it's right way up you can open the stopcock without taking off the stopper. normally it would build up a vacuum and flow very slowly and unevenly or even stop



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