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geesh dear boy you do have swelling. how about ice? and some NSAIDS. dont be too proud to go to a minor emergency clinic.
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That aint looks so bad, I thought that it is much-much worse. It will recover soon.
P.S.: You are lucky, get a face shield as soon as possible.
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I'll second Cyanu's suggestion. It's been a long time since I wanted to be a doctor, and even then I didn't know many medicines. Endimion recommended
silver sulfadiazine, and from a quick glance, it looks good. Typically you need a prescription for it, but if you're lucky, you might be able to find
it OTC as "SilvaSorb" in a tube. If you can't find it, or even if you can find it, you'll probably have to go see the doctor.
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Or synthesize it 
there may be bugs in gfind
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Endimion17
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It's hard to tell from these photos, but if the wounds were actually bleeding, that's a third degree, no doubt. Small surface 3rd
degree burns can heal without intensive medical care (large surfaces kill) but we're not talking about saving your life, but your aesthetics, your
face features.
The magnitude of a scar increases with the bacterial growth, and the greater the degree, the more bacteria come to feast on your flesh. Your immune
system can't do much about it because surface areas aren't exactly easy to reach by your white blood cells, that's why you have to deal with it.
Ag-sulphadiazine will kill the bacteria present and keep the wound aseptic if you keep it covered. There'll be a lot of goo and probably pus, your
wounds might get wetter than before and might heal somewhat slower, but at least the scars from bacteria won't be present. Also, the pain when the
nerves start growing again won't be that great.
I urge you to go to the ER/doctor and ask for the medication as soon as possible. Lying about printed circuit board cleaning works.
If you start with the medication you've got nothing to lose. If you don't, you'll end up with scars that change colour from pink to purple. Do you
really want that? I've got such scar, but at least it's only one, and it's not on my face.
plante1999, I see you're from Québec. Canadian health care, AFAIK, is pretty much free. So use it, FFS.
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blogfast25
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Plante, you really need to see a doctor, if you haven't already: there are so many treatments out there you wouldn't believe it. I've just been
treated for something I've been suffering with for weeks (not chemistry related), believing there was no cure for it but time itself, and just two
treatments have already made a world of difference.
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FWIW: I had a couple small acid burns on my face from a sulfuric acid mishap years ago. They were black too. There was a scar for a year or so, but
now it has totally healed.
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plante1999
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I bought one face shield, one set of neoprene glove and now I need a lab coat, sadly enough this year I will have much saffety guear but no chemicals,
I already lack of many of them and I'm out of stock of many of them too. I guess I will safely watch my microscale set .
I never asked for this.
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plante1999
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The burn is now healthier, I do believe now I wont be scared, at least not for long. The burn are pink and slightly swollen. But they look healthy.
I do warn everyone tough, know the stuff you work with, and theoretical is not practical.
I never asked for this.
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Quote: Originally posted by plante1999  | The burn is now healthier, I do believe now I wont be scared, at least not for long. The burn are pink and slightly swollen. But they look healthy.
I do warn everyone tough, know the stuff you work with, and theoretical is not practical. |
Nice to see that you are recovering well.
Next time remember to use a face shield
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plante1999
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Her my burns after about a month and half:
<img src="http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g469/plante1999/DSC00043_zps080f322b.jpg" width="600" />
I take the opportunity to tell that I just go a camera this week-end, and that in my next works, picture will be included.
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I never asked for this.
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Well, at any rate, it seems to be clearing up...
Elements Collected:52/87
Latest Acquired: Cl
Next in Line: Nd
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CaliusOptimus
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Oooo that's not fun. I have a picture on my hard drive of a member here who had conc. HNO3 splashed in his face. I keep it as a safety reminder, and
also to show my friends who've been interested in nitric for precious metal recovery. Along with dripping some WFNA on nitrile gloves makes for a good
safety demo.
AFAIK he healed well.
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Looks like you're going to have those scars for a long time. Those were partial third degree burns and the discoloration is probably permanent as my
WP wound. Get used to it. If someone asks about it, say you're the son of Two-Face from Batman.
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bahamuth
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You'll heal up nicely, may last a year or two though.
I myself got a couple of lead fragments in my face, one large (about 2mm) lodged in the skin right under my eye due to stupidity (disarming a dud with
a drill...... ) when I was 18 or so. They didn't dare to cut it out at the
hospital without a facial surgeon e.g. plastic surgeon due to all the nerves running in that area. Still got a greenish spot of encapsulated lead
under my eye over ten years later...
Anyways, there is an article somewhere on this forum about face protection, where they make a "thiocyanate bomb" of a pressurized round bottom flask
and some paper mache faces soaked in potassium ferrocyanide IIRC, and protected by different safety gear. After detonation of the "bomb" on e could
see where spatter and such hit the faces and which gear protected the different parts etc. IIRC only a combination of good goggles and a big
faceshield were adequate. Can't seem to find it though...
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GammaFunction
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| Quote: Originally posted by plante1999 | | I don't think they will disappear, they will left mark... The skin look like melted and the burn are mostly 2 mm deep. |
I had considerably nastier burns in my younger days, and they went away, after about three years.
Still, perhaps a face shield should be the first purchase anyone makes, before any glassware.
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Xenon1898
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plante - I just read this post now, very sorry to see your accident. I am glad you purchased some safety gear, that will come in handy for many years
to come.
Good medical treatment can make a big different if you think scarring will occur. Years ago I had a bad burn on my face from my nose (inside
nostrils) straight across both cheecks to and including my ear lobes, down my face, mouth and neck, left side of chest and left shoulder, and back of
my left hand. The blisters on the back of each finger were thicker than the fingers were. Parts of the burn were quite deep. I would have had bad
scarring if I didn't go to a burn center for a couple weeks every day. The treatment? Amazingly painful - sitting in a bath with mild chlorine
bleach and scrubbing the burns to remove the developing skin! The face required shaving the facial hair right on the burn so it didn't get infected
with hair. Your situation is probably different, but the point is if you are worried about scarring you should see a doctor. Oh, and wait a long
time until you let very much sunlight on the burned area, the new skin may take some time to come in.
One thing that helps scars to heal is a cream made from comfrey leaves, they contain allantoin that helps healing. It is probably one of the most
scientifically well documented herbs for healing tissues (external use only recommended).
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Be careful about the free advice you get on a website. The science of wound healing is more complex than "if there was bleeding, it must have been
third degree". Third degree burns relate to degree of tissue damage and depth. Bleeding doesn't usually occur until the tissue is debrided or the scab
is picked.
Chemical burns are similar but very different than thermal burns. Keloid scarring is also a potential. The red color with a nitric acid burn can
persist a lifetime.
Go to your family doctor (it is way to late for "urgent care") and discuss this with them. Tell them it was a nitric acid burn. Again, it is important
to tell the doctor what acid, not just that it was an acid. Sulphuric Acid and Hydrochloric acid cause quite different burns than nitric acid.
Your doctor will likely refer you to plastic surgery/burn specialist for an opinion. It's your face. Having a significant scar on your face is
something you should take seriously.
Good lesson to be learned here. Be thankful you didn't bet splashed in the eye(s).
Nitrous
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plante1999
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Now, the burns color are much closer to surounding skin, and I believe in a few years everything will be alright.
Would you mind explaining me the difference betwen sulphuric, hydrochloric and nitric acid. Even if I know quite a bit in chmistry, my medicine
knowledge is very limited.
Thanks
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DubaiAmateurRocketry
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Wow!! I hope you recover from your scars,
I am in a football team and often I would get small injouries, to prepare and recover asap, our team provides a cream that make you recover asap. I
dont know about medicine or how it works, but it works literally amazing for me. I have a bruise, apply for 2 days and it is completely gone.
I am not sure if it helps with acid burns, but you might want to try it.
http://www.auriga-int.com/en/auriderm-xo-cream
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If we want to go down that road, http://www.drugs.com/drp/biafine-topical-emulsion.html
I once burnt the palm of my hand with an orange hot piece of steel I was trying to work with, I lathered that stuff on and by the next morning there
was a faint pink line that was barely sensitive.
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| Quote: Originally posted by plante1999 | Now, the burns color are much closer to surounding skin, and I believe in a few years everything will be alright.
Would you mind explaining me the difference betwen sulphuric, hydrochloric and nitric acid. Even if I know quite a bit in chmistry, my medicine
knowledge is very limited.
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Your site is listed as "unpublished".
I'm glad the skin seems to be returning to normal.
You might pay attention to how the skin reacts when your skin gets cold or very warm (as in a warm bath or going out in the cold). It may behave in a
peculiar way (turn red) for quite some time.
A quick search on google should help clarify the nature of thermal vs chemical burns. (And in particular, the dehydrating effects of sulphuric acid vs
the protein denaturing effects of nitric acid)
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Sorry about the accident, I hope you heal well.
@Oscillator:
I don't think that the "What Shouldn't Be Done" section should be put under energetic materials... You're implying that EM's are ALWAYS dangerous, and
that's not true. It might be squeezed under "Special Topics."
Fear is what you get when caution wasn't enough.
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Wow, I've never considered HNO3 more than a substance "be careful", like 2 from 4 of hazard factor, mostly I've worried how to store it at 99% conc.
in larger amounts. But anyway I always wear full face gas mask when working with fuming stuff, let it be HNO3, ammonia, HCl or even some milder stuff,
because I don't want to turn my head every time I want to breath and it gives me more convenient working.
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| Quote: Originally posted by blogfast25 | I also hope that this will make you think twice about the safety precautions needed for working with F2!
Contact me when you're ready... |
I'm ready
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