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[*] posted on 4-5-2005 at 18:51


Neutrino, isn't that picture of the distillation apparatus from the United Glasstec website? As for the iodine, if it's a good picture I will try and use it, although it appears I will probably be getting more pictures of iodine then anything else on my list.

Organikum, the pictures in this thread are not coming up for your copper condenser, are they elsewhere on the forum as well?

Anyone else, just send pictures to my Gmail box (in my profile) and I will be able to sort them better. Any pictures I use will get the picture taker credit where credit is due, if you want your name to appear in the credits in a certain way then include that too otherwise it is just sciencemadness name and your country if you have it listed.

Thanks a lot everyone!

Note! I posted a list of pictures I am trying to find on the previous page of posts, please check it out!

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[*] posted on 4-5-2005 at 19:38


Darn! I will fix it.



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[*] posted on 5-5-2005 at 02:25


Maybe I misunderstood you. Do you want original pictures or pictures that came from just anywhere?
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[*] posted on 5-5-2005 at 05:46


Original pictures of course! How convincing are some castrated pictures from some corporate website? :P



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[*] posted on 5-5-2005 at 13:02


Ah. You might then want to know that that bromine ampoule is one of Theodore Gray’s.

I have some Vycor tubing lying around. Do you want a picture of that?
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[*] posted on 5-5-2005 at 13:06


Check your Gmail. I still need to do the iodine vapour and titration pic. They should be done within the next few days.



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[*] posted on 5-5-2005 at 20:28


Thank you very much for the pictures Rogue Chemist, and Neutrino, a picture of Vycor tubing would be much appreciated.



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[*] posted on 17-5-2005 at 14:29


Any word on the project?



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[*] posted on 17-5-2005 at 17:46


I updated at the start of this month to keep with my trend of updating once a month. This update amounted to 25 or so pages and as usual the page on my page relating to the project had the series of subjects updated as well to reflect their degree of completion. I made a list of subjects that I would like something written for, being that I have little to no firmiliarity with them or thing I would do a terrible job of writing the sections (being that I really am looking for experienced people to write for them), I will post this listing of subjects hopefully this weekend.

Again, thanks to all the people who have contributed!




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[*] posted on 18-5-2005 at 19:07


Check thy Email, BromicAcid. :D

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[*] posted on 3-6-2005 at 20:11


Okay, going to be a little late getting the update for the book project this month (I usually go for the first week or so of a month to update). This is because I am taking school and working and it's really taxing me, but school is out for the summer soon so I can get back to work on the book. In the mean time I made a list of sections that I would really like for other people to write. I can use help on everything, I'm always accepting more sections from people and look foreward to getting more, but I made a list similar to my requested pictures list that I posted a while back, this on is for requested topics. If you want to help with this take a moment to look at this, thanks a lot everyone!

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[*] posted on 22-6-2005 at 10:35
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Any news?

Btw; it appears that your site is down Bromic.




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[*] posted on 22-6-2005 at 17:02


Yup, it's down, so is the host's website, I'll change my signature when it's back up.

In the meantime I've got two additions to the book, thank you IPN and Cyrus. Always looking foreward to more additions from other people. Been busy lately trying to get more good pictures and working with waste disposal methods and such. I should have an update at the begning of next month seeing as how my school schedule will cease by then. I'll post a good update to this thread then.




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[*] posted on 19-7-2005 at 12:15


Just a thought, but along the lines of the real chemistry book I was asking about in the newbie forum, could you add a really large section on practical chemistry, with a lot of inorganic stuff. Things like how to make this or that, what side reactions and dangers there are to look out for (what to expect, reactive strengths, etc.), and so on.
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[*] posted on 22-7-2005 at 19:40


Very nice job on the book; I appreciate it and the hard work of those behind it.

Hm, I have a couple pictures I'd like to offer that I think would illustrate principles, processes, and perhaps spark ideas.

Some I already have on PC and other things I can just take pictures of. Examples:

Iodometric Titration w/o starch indicator


Bromine Distillation, and a bottle with about 150mL

Silver Spoon Dissolving in red fuming nitric

Picture of molten silver casting w/ furnace

Nifty hydrogenation setup

A large thermite reaction, couple pounds of magnesium burning in a graphite crucible.

Quite a few pictures of some elements I've collected.

Now you want these .jpg right?
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[*] posted on 22-7-2005 at 20:00


Those all sound like spectacular pictures, I'd be extremely happy to add them to this project! JPG is a fine format.

I have just finally got a good reliable internet connection back and I will put up what I have of the book either tonight or tommorow, much more work needs to be done in the coming days though as a I haven't incorporated everything that I've gotten from donors lately into the book.




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[*] posted on 22-7-2005 at 20:05


Excellent! I'm glad to be able to offer my small bit in this huge project. I'll scan and crop some photos for you. Thanks for the excuse to do a couple reactions I've been wanting to do ;)
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[*] posted on 24-7-2005 at 06:56


Nice, extensive project.

I`m happy to see such great work in the forum with a couple of pic´s for chemirtsy related.


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thumbup.gif posted on 28-7-2005 at 19:15
Fantastic Project


Hello everyone,

I just wanted to say what a wonderful project this is! So far, the project is beginning to look like an excellent practical manual with a scope ranging from the inexperienced to quite advanced laboratory tecniques.:D

I understand the aweful auto-correct feature in Word--it sucks particularly when "scientific" language is used. Everythime I "train" the software, Win crashes, and I end up having to reformat and start over. GAH!:mad:

I can and will supply many of the pictures that you have requested. I have for example, a TLC developing jar where the Iodine has sublimed into rather large crystals; violet vapour is apparent.

I also will attempt to provide content that is derived from direct experience. Is there any section that you are requesting specifically?

I would also like to suggest sections involving the resistance or lack therof of glove materials and specific chemicals--for example (from experience)-DCM (chloroform too) penetrates both latex and nitrile, where it will burn the skin (With this chemical I do not use gloves! I shake it off, allowing it to rapidly evaporate;BP=40C) and for the energetics fans, di-trinitrophenols (sp. sec-butyl-2,4-dinitrophenol) will penetrate nitrile without damage. This leaves you with yellow fingers, a flushed appearance, rapid heartbeat, profuse sweating, and a migrain (classic decoupling of electron transport):o.

Additionally, a section involving the design of home and professional laboratories may be interesting.

Sorry about the long post, great project!

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[*] posted on 7-11-2005 at 22:14
Finally posted an update.


After nearly 4 months of no updates I finally updated what I have on my site. It has grown by about 15 pages, nothing major. I still have some text from individuals that needs to be incorporated but it's coming along well, any help is appreciated.

There are some minor formatting issues in the PDF where the text is going off the screen but those will be corrected easily enough, also starting to format the rest of it to make it look nice. I added to various parts but for the life of me I can't rattle off a list of what I have worked on and what I haven't, I've been working on it on and off for a while and school has really been hitting me hard. Hopefully I will get some more nice pictures for it and some people here will feel inspired to contibute.

Aside from more pictures and formatting I feel a few parts are written in a way that focuses much too much on just the technical side of things and I may need to 'dumb' them down, or at least make them more readable, this is supposed to be for the average person afterall, readable, not boring like some of the things I've added. And the section on safety came out much too stiff and serious, and there seems to be an uneccesary slant against energetic materials in the safety section, although I don't research in energetic materials it can of course be fun as many members of this board prove all the time and it can be persued in a safe manner, although that is not the goal of the document, to tell the synthesis of potentially explosive compounds, that doesn't mean I should have that negative slant toward them, that's just wrong it should just help people in whatever aspect of chemistry they choose to go to.

Anyway, much thanks to all those who have contributed and I hope you like where I am going with this.




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[*] posted on 1-6-2006 at 09:56


One thing I would do is put those sections on separate pages with a main TOC with links to the sections/pages, so you don't have to scroll forever and have a hard time finding a specific place. Also the link for the following image, just below the quoted text is bad. It took me a while playing around (one slash is reversed also) and comparing to working image links but I finally got the correct link for it, the corrected image links in this post work.

"Below are some steps we can take to get our solution concentrations."
Link on page:
http://www.destructve.com/bromicacid/Book%20Project%20Pictur...
Correct link:
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/oxylatecalc.jp...


Next missing image: (I am going up from the bottom), just below the following text: Hydrogen Halides except Fluoride HCl, HBr, HI WS:
http://www.destructve.com/bromicacid/book_files/image034.jpg

Correct link:
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image034.jpg

More:
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image032.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image030.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image028.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image026.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image024.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image022.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image020.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image018.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image016.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image014.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image012.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image010.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image008.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image006.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image004.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bromicacid/bookproject/image002.jpg

If I had to guess I would say some images did not get copied over from an older to a newer server space?

Anyway, just FYI for everyone.
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[*] posted on 1-6-2006 at 17:30


I didn't even realize that I had done anything with the book during my aol days. I will try to fix those images asap so that they work correctly. I'm way behind posting an update and I intend to separate out the sections so that I can work on them better and put them all back together at the end.

As always I accept submissions to sections. For some reason I thought I would finish this project in a year or two.... It's coming along I guess.




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[*] posted on 1-6-2006 at 18:04


Anything as good as this book is takes much time, a work of love. Humor me though and have two versions, one where each section (like 1, 2, etc.) is a separate page with a TOC link page, so I can read it without scrolling through one masive page. Because of my vision I keep my computer screen size low, a max of 800 by 600, so I can read the print. Makes it easy to scroll around in a page if it is not so long.

Just a thought.
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[*] posted on 12-6-2006 at 23:56


I'd just like to say, excellnet work on the book, but I've found one error.

In the alkali metals section there is this claim that "Lithium perchlorate actually contains more oxygen, gram for gram, then liquid oxygen." Which seems to me to be a physical impossibility. Should that read "by volume" or more active oxygen I guess?

Keep up the good work!

EDIT: I read on another page on the site that lithium perchlorate is one of his favorite compounds since it has more active oxygen than liquid oxygen, I guess that's what he meant.

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[*] posted on 22-8-2006 at 11:03


a lot thanks......
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