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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 13:17


You're called a script kiddie because of the script logs left by attempts to guess passwords for Lumen Christie, Facebook, and other organizations.

The vulnerability you exploited here was already public, though I suppose it is possible you discovered it independently: http://secunia.com/community/forum/thread/show/9946/xmb_cros...

Sadly, since XMB has fallen into disuse, there is no central development committee tracking bugs or working on bug fix releases any more. It will be up to me to fix our own copy of XMB.

[Edited on 8-13-2014 by Polverone]




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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 13:18


I am not sure where you are getting Kali Linux out of, I didn't even make use of it in this instance.
I do have remorse, perhaps I am not portraying it well within this text.
I was explaining my thought process behind this 'attack'.
I didn't mean any harm in fact I love this forum, it is full of great minds and ideas and the last thing I want is it gone.
Arkoma I have already apologised to you and I have apologised to Polverone in private and have supplied him with the knowledge needed to patch this and I will continue to do so like originally intended.
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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 13:24


Young Man, I sincerely hope that you have learned a valuable life lesson from this. Your credibility is now FOREVER suspect here, whatever your original intentions were.




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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 13:25


Quote: Originally posted by forgotpassword  

I do have remorse, perhaps I am not portraying it well within this text.
I was explaining my thought process behind this 'attack'.
I didn't mean any harm in fact I love this forum, it is full of great minds and ideas and the last thing I want is it gone.
Arkoma I have already apologised to you and I have apologised to Polverone in private and have supplied him with the knowledge needed to patch this and I will continue to do so like originally intended.
I don't think that all of this apology after the fact of being caught is going to do you much good. The damage is already done, and you'll just have to accept that you blocked yourself out of this forum that you say you love. That's all on you.



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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 13:28


Quote: Originally posted by zts16  
Quote: Originally posted by forgotpassword  

I do have remorse, perhaps I am not portraying it well within this text.
I was explaining my thought process behind this 'attack'.
I didn't mean any harm in fact I love this forum, it is full of great minds and ideas and the last thing I want is it gone.
Arkoma I have already apologised to you and I have apologised to Polverone in private and have supplied him with the knowledge needed to patch this and I will continue to do so like originally intended.
I don't think that all of this apology after the fact of being caught is going to do you much good. The damage is already done, and you'll just have to accept that you blocked yourself out of this forum that you say you love. That's all on you.

I agree. It was fun tracking you, etc. but now that the fun of the mystery is over, the damage must be tallied. And you are lacking. I vote ban... But wait, is forgotten password ACTUALLY manifest?




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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 13:29


Well I didn't really bother covering my tracks because I was doing it here and I was going to give myself up anyway, I didn't expect you to be so sharp.
You can also send U2U's on a users behalf.
Click here to see the code used
Click here to see it work to send me a U2U.

EDIT: Polverone has blocked my VPS's IP, it wont work but the code is still there.

No, my name is FORGOTpassword not FORGOTTENpassword.
He is innocent.

[Edited on 13-8-2014 by forgotpassword]
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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 13:35


Quote: Originally posted by The Volatile Chemist  
I agree. It was fun tracking you, etc. but now that the fun of the mystery is over, the damage must be tallied. And you are lacking. I vote ban... But wait, is forgotten password ACTUALLY manifest?
As pointed out earlier, forgottenpassword is not an alternate account of Manifest, but an innocent and unrelated member, while forgotpassword is Manifest's alternate account. I would also vote ban, if there was a vote, because as arkoma said, his credibility is now forever in question.



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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 13:42


I suggest doing a Google search of "how to apologize". You seem to be making some classic mistakes. Most people are pretty forgiving if you offer a sincere meaningful apology. Good luck to you.

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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 13:44


I have offered a meaningful apology 1 page ago.
You're taking me out of context I didn't cover my tracks because I was going to inform Polverone it was me anyway.

I sincerely hope it doesn't come to a ban as stated before I love this site.
I am also sincerely sorry for wasting Polverone's time and for wasting yours also.
I'm sure I might have made a few of you fear that your security was at risk so I am also very sorry for that.

[Edited on 13-8-2014 by forgotpassword]
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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 13:46


Also vote ban, ESPECIALLY because you deleted my posts and tricked zts16 into thinking I was faking it. And you sockpuppeted Mr_Magnesium - so you've also killed the credibilities of other members, at least temporarily.



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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 13:53


Well if that's your opinion I have got to respect that.
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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 13:59


ban

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shocked.gif posted on 13-8-2014 at 14:01
Making restitution


If you want to get your account back, and you want the big page of evidence about what you've done to go away and not show up in search engine results, fix the CSRF vulnerability in XMB:

https://github.com/mattbernst/xmbforum

You write the fixes, I'll do the code reviews and merge your pull requests. Maybe someone has already fixed them in another fork/derivative of XMB I'm unaware of. I don't care if you crib from fixes written elsewhere, but the fixes must be merged into the version I've put up on github, since that's the version we are using on sciencemadness.

You can get a sanitized, virtualized version of the forum to use for populating a test database, and seeing how the configuration works, here: https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=12...

If you aren't fluent with PHP or git now is a great time to learn.




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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 14:03


I have my account back. Thanks woelen and Polverone.
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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 14:03


Okay, but I feel I am better to this forum unbanned than banned, I am a genuine user, I have 229 posts.
What I feel are high quality posts.
If I came here to hack or be a nuisance I wouldn't post 229 times.
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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 14:06


QUIT JUSTIFYING AND GET BUSY CODING




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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 14:06


Will do sir.
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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 14:07


Quote: Originally posted by forgotpassword  
Okay, but I feel I am better to this forum unbanned than banned, I am a genuine user, I have 229 posts.
What I feel are high quality posts.
If I came here to hack or be a nuisance I wouldn't post 229 times.


Obviously the forum, including me, disagrees.
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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 14:08


You obviously have the talent.........use it PRODUCTIVELY as Polv has so graciously allowed




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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 14:12


No, a new backup drive is cheap. I want restitution in kind. And the restitution process will improve Manifest's skills for legal employment in software development, so win/win.



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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 14:13


Quote: Originally posted by Polverone  
No, a new backup drive is cheap. I want restitution in kind. And the restitution process will improve Manifest's skills for legal employment in software development, so win/win.


King Solomon could not do better IMHO

edit--messed up quote

[Edited on 8-13-2014 by arkoma]





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and..

“The gentle reader will never, never know what a consummate ass he can become until he goes abroad.”

Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad

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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 14:20


I crafted this exquisite masterpiece of a post, and then realized it was already a page out of date when I posted it. This thread is moving fast (or maybe I'm just slow).
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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 16:14


Given that this is not the first time that Manifest has made a forum-related 'hack', it is rather difficult to accept his explanation.

See the IRC logs for what Manifest likes to do when he feels butthurt. (hint: he likes to launch DoS attacks in a feeble attempt to display some sort of 'superiority').

Regardless, let's hope he actually does something useful now and properly patches the vulnerability.
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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 16:34


Polverone, I hate to give you more work after what you've been through, but I hope you double- and triple-check Manifest's fix - it would not surprise me if he left additional back doors somewhere to cause even worse damage.



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[*] posted on 13-8-2014 at 20:48


Seconded, I definitely think that he'll just add security holes, rather than fix any. At most he would just hide them. He doesn't deserve a second chance in my opinion. Ban his IP address and freeze all his accounts.



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