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Poll: Poll: What is YOUR level of education??
At school. --- 214 (37.54%)
Undergraduate degree (university/polytechnic etc.) --- 181 (31.75%)
Postgraduate degree (Masters, etc) --- 62 (10.88%)
PhD (doctorate, whatever) --- 46 (8.07%)
Professorship (assistant or full, inc. Nobel prize winners) --- 11 (1.93%)
Have completed school, but no degrees to this point :-P --- 56 (9.82%)

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[*] posted on 29-3-2005 at 15:49
Poll: What is YOUR level of education??


Well, together with this thread, we might get some meaningful answers :)

Obviously, if you are currently doing a degree, then you are eligible for poll item 2, or if you are doing a masters, then 3, and so on :)
Nobel prize winners please come forth! :D



[Edited on 31-3-2005 by chemoleo]




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[*] posted on 29-3-2005 at 17:22


I'm a senior in high school, and next year I will be attending Northeastern University (or possibly syracuse, but neu offered me a scholarship, and boston is a much more interesting town). I am going to major in chemical engineering, but i might switch depending on how i like it, can anyone here offer some suggestions/comments on college majors?

PS: It was amazing to vist the chemical engineering department "Over here we have the scanning electron microscope" I was :o In the next room a man was growing carbon nanotubles under an atmosphere of argon, then I think about my HS lab and that we lack basic acids/glassware.
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[*] posted on 29-3-2005 at 18:14


I'm a chem undergraduate at the moment.

Speaking of levels of education (tenuous link...)

Whilst I am very tolerant of people who don't know a lot of chemistry, I'm constantly surprised by questions like "how do I calculate mass from density and volume?" and comments such as "I thought anything that is a liquid had to have water in it." :o

I kid ye not.

Or am I wrong to be surprised other undergrads don't know these sorts of things? I can't say for sure given my hobby learning angle on chem since before I can remember, but I would have thought a few basic facts would be known by this level! (Not rant - just a bit of observation!)

[Edited on 3/30/2005 by Dave Angel]
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[*] posted on 29-3-2005 at 18:25


I'm in school now (last year). I aspire to become a chemist or maybe even a chemical engineer.

I guess I could say that I have a school-level of education, but my understanding of chemistry extends past our schools watered-down curriculum. :D

[Edited on 30-3-2005 by cyclonite4]
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[*] posted on 29-3-2005 at 20:28


Quote:
Originally posted by Dave Angel

Whilst I am very tolerant of people who don't know a lot of chemistry, I'm constantly surprised by questions like "how do I calculate mass from density and volume?" and comments such as "I thought anything that is a liquid had to have water in it." :o



That's pretty scary. I wouldn't let them touch any of my chemicals or let them near my glassware for that matter :)
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[*] posted on 29-3-2005 at 20:59


I voted the last option because I "officially" graduated "HS" last year and am going to college this fall... I use quotes because I "was" homeschooled (anyone who also was knows why I again use quotes). Like cyclonite4, I know a bit more about (electronics and metallurgy in my case) than the average HS graduate. ;)

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[*] posted on 29-3-2005 at 21:15


Pursing a degree in chemical enginnering was going for biochemistry but I want to get paid as soon as I get out of school. Texas A&M
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[*] posted on 29-3-2005 at 21:38


Although it has been many years since I obtained my BS (Ch. E.) from a public university in the US I have kept an active interest in the field even when my job didn't require it. I have taken refresher chemistry courses now and then which helped in my career and in my hobby.

I feel that this forum is just one of a set of valuable tools for continuing to learn about and enjoy chemistry. Anyone who participates in this forum will have a "leg up" on his peers.




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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 00:31


Why the "americanized" list of choices?



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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 00:50


...same as cyclonite4



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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 02:39


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Originally posted by Eliteforum
Why the "americanized" list of choices?


Might as well fit in with the trend, ey? :P
The whole worlds doing it, why can't one person?




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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 03:54


The whole world is certainly not doing it. In europe we only recently adapted the bachelor/masters system.

I guess undergraduate = bachelor?

I found it surprising though that as we're being adapted to the US system, chemistry bachelor is being extended to three years instead of two and the material is easier.

McDonaldization I guess?




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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 04:05


I was referring to 'americanization' in general, not only the education system.

...Or you could call it McDonaldization :D.




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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 05:20


Eliteforum, I don't understand why the list is americanised (note the spelling... 's', not 'z' :D). I actually deliberately tried to make it not sound americanised - note, I don't call it 'high school' or something.
Most countries have school ;), most countries have universities to do a degree (at least in dev. world).
It's the same system they use in the UK, or Germany. Admittedly, Masters degrees (postgrad) seems to be more of a moneymaker than a genuine degree as it draws so many foreign overseas student at english universities :D - and it's prevalent mainly in the US/UK - i.e. in Germany they haven't picked up on it yet (Postgraduate degrees are usually short, normally 1 years, 2 years at the most. Normally PhDs are included in this).
Vulture - yah, undergraduate is simply a university degree that takes from 3-5 years or so. Whereby this degree leads to a diploma in germany, baccalaureat in France, or a 'graduation' in England/US (?)

Anyway, are there any poll items that should be included but were left out?
Oh, hangon, I don't think I can edit the original poll...

[Edited on 30-3-2005 by chemoleo]




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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 09:13


I have something like a MA in psychology and sociology. :o

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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 10:46


I remember long ago attending Berkeley ....Theoretical Math,....and Family Practice Medicine at Stanford.....in a far away land.......solo



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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 12:16


Quote:
Originally posted by Organikum
I have something like a MA in psychology and sociology. :o

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For the females I guess?

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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 15:44


Academic corruption being what it is these days, and big business at that, there are many places from which you can virtually buy degrees - and often get away with it. Sometimes they ask you to provide a thesis, or an account of your life work experience. In particular, in California, the degree vendors -"diploma mills" if you like - operate quite legally, because any organization styled as a "non-profit organization" there, with an endowment of $50,000 or more, can legally call itself a "university" and register as such, and award degrees.

The only limitation on what you do with such degrees is that you cannot apply to join a "protected" professional society, or obtain a license to practice a "protected" profession, like law, medicine, dentistry, medical laboratory technology and other medical and dental auxiliaries, pharmacy, psychology, optometry, chiropractic, or nursing, on the basis of such a degree. These professional societies have their own lists of which universities they consider to be accredited or acceptable; in the case of law, a state bar examination or similar has also to be passed. But just about all other occupations are "fair game" with such degrees, except that one cannot call oneself "certified" or "chartered" or "registered", e.g. if working on one's own account as a chemist, engineer, or accountant.
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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 15:46


How come you know all this? What's your degree again? ;) :D



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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 16:55


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For the females I guess?


Not only. MA = Magister Artis :D




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[*] posted on 30-3-2005 at 22:37


Honours in Chem.

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[*] posted on 31-3-2005 at 01:07


I'm aiming for the same thing, for I love chemistry. Unfortunately, poor results in a less-scientifically-relevent area means I have to take a longer path to get my aspired Bachelors degree (I have to get a related diploma first).



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[*] posted on 31-3-2005 at 10:04


Undergrad Chem Engineering, (physics is a fucking nightmare!!!).



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[*] posted on 31-3-2005 at 10:34


Physics at my uni was a walk in the park compared to quantummechanics, so brace yourself. :D



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