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[*] posted on 24-1-2012 at 11:09


Whats in that stainless steel gas tank(?) or is that just a pot? You have the same brand of acetone as me!

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[*] posted on 24-1-2012 at 11:16


Nice work. Here's a few comments. All are meant to be constructive:

1. In your face velocity calculation you lost the 60s/min somehow. FV = [(650 ft^3/min)/(60 s/min)]/6 ft^2 = 1.80 ft/s, which is good.

2. All that wood is a fire hazard. Perhaps it could be replaced, or faced, with gypsum wall board. Just an idea for your consideration.

3. 8" ducting - good

4. In line fan - possible fire hazard from sparking.

5. I like your exhaust stack, but what do the neighbors think about it? :)





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[*] posted on 24-1-2012 at 11:22
My fume hood!


Total cost: $27.95
Everything else: junk sitting in the garage.
Construction time: 6 hrs
Face-velocity: Guess; 80 fpm at high sash. Good enough to keep ALOT of xylene vapors below 1ppm out here.

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[*] posted on 24-1-2012 at 13:05


Man there was a guy who did research on pyruvian torch and other psychoactive cacti and he had the most magnificent laboratory;

He had a very large work bench and stock room, the workbench was ventilated by a large windows that were vented straigh outside, additionally circulated by a fumehood nearby. Natural light and when working with non-volatile solvents or non-toxics, could simply open up the windows. The whole room was set about 6 feet underground, so that the windows were just barely aboveground. Kept the room at a reasonable temperature.

In view from the vent windows was a greenhouse in which the researcher grew the cacti and other plants to do extractions on. Oh god it was wonderful, the picture.

A man sitting at a bench, sun lit, windows open, green everywhere outside the windows, and psychoactive plants abound :) - that is my dream :D

Question: Has anyone ever rented lab space? How much did you pay for it. There is a place literally kitty korner from my house that is wanting to rent lab space. I would like to but am not familiar with prices. Plus I have this nervous twitch that everyone will believe I'm making meth. While I'm not making meth - I do have illegal items.

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[*] posted on 24-1-2012 at 16:55


Thanks for the correction.. I did lose the units. 80-100 fpm.

I appreciate the constructive criticism. My purpose in making my lab public is just for this purpose. The following remarks are not defensive; rather, they are clarifications.

The fan is centrifugal; therefore, the wiring and the motor are hermetically sealed.

We'll see what the neighbors think... I'm sure they are oblivious as long as I am not ostentatious. I'm working relatively microscale. Any vapor should be adequately dissipated by the time it reaches their houses.

Wood IS a fire hazard.
Precautions: 2 layers of thick epoxy on entire fume hood.
Fire extinguisher on hand.
All chemicals not currently being used are stored in a secluded place, away from my shed.

Anything I am doing is <500 mL, often <250 mL. If an ignition did occur, I'm confident it would be readily contained. The key to any of this is to understand the cues: understanding when a reaction has runaway and taking the steps to neutralize it. Assuming an ignition did occur, it would not turn the hood into flames immediately!:o Combustion takes time. Plus it would have to dissolve the epoxy.

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[*] posted on 24-1-2012 at 20:32


Aircow,

The pot is just a bayou aluminum stockpot. I got it for free, but I don't really have a use for it. Al reacts with acids; therefore, I can't use it for brewing [the only thing I would potentially use it for].

Yeah.. until I find a consistent, reliable supplier I am purifying and synth my own chemicals :(
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[*] posted on 20-2-2012 at 12:39


Rapture - TBH, the most reliable supplies I have found are either domestic products and eBay!:)



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[*] posted on 23-9-2012 at 10:32


I am nearly finished moving my lab to a nice location. a 100m long, 8m wide. made of brick with vaulted celing.
I still have to unpack almost all of my chemicals and glass, but here is a little preview, if i find a cupboard I will put my chemicals in there, but otherwise i'll keep them on that ledge. on the other side is a cupboard of glassware.


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[*] posted on 23-9-2012 at 10:36


Nice... sounds (and looks) subterranean! I just hope you have some decent ventilation.



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[*] posted on 23-9-2012 at 10:44


it is half. it is the cellar of an old bank, underground on the street side, above ground on the canal side. there is a window (1mx1,5m) right above my table.
the only disadvantage is there is no power. i ran a permanent extension cord so I have power. and for now there is only a sink that is two stories up, but there is a locked door that has a water pipe going into it. so wednesday I will pick the lock and see if I get water. otherwise a 55gallon drum of water to wash with.




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[*] posted on 23-9-2012 at 11:24


Quote: Originally posted by Pyro  
100m long


Really? Is this a typo or is your lab really 0.1km long?

Look forward to seeing some more pictures!




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[*] posted on 23-9-2012 at 11:33


yes its 0,1km long, its the cellar of a huge bank! on the ''kouter''. but I only use a small part of it. the other side is boxes, just isles and isles of cardboard boxes. they almost completely block one half of it. its just massive. i'll take more pics wednesday.



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[*] posted on 23-9-2012 at 13:09


this is a friend of mine helping me move some of my lab equipment under cover of darkness.
unfortunately there was sulfuric and nitric acid among them (as you all know, very heavy) and the cart broke down so we got a lift in a truck full of chips :)
he gave us 5 bags, yum yum.


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[*] posted on 23-9-2012 at 16:08


Quote: Originally posted by Pyro  
...under cover of darkness.


Sweet. :cool:

Quote: Originally posted by Pyro  

...the cart broke down so we got a lift in a truck full of chips :)
he gave us 5 bags, yum yum.


Great community support! ;)




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[*] posted on 24-9-2012 at 07:06


Do you have legal usage of this underground area?



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[*] posted on 24-9-2012 at 07:16


Quote: Originally posted by Pyro  
I am nearly finished moving my lab to a nice location. a 100m long, 8m wide. made of brick with vaulted celing.


Sounds great. If it were not for the inadvisability of open flame, I would suggest lighting by candle to complete the effect.
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[*] posted on 24-9-2012 at 07:54


Quote: Originally posted by Eliteforum  
Do you have legal usage of this underground area?

legal? the owner permitted me to use it. but nothing else.

is a Bunsen burner good enough? :D

Oh, Magpie:I went at night because we took the cart on the road lol, down main street. at night there re less cars


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[*] posted on 24-9-2012 at 12:21


here are a few more pics.
1) my workspace and hotplate
2) on the table are alcohols and solvents, acids on the right
3) weighing table. under the dust cover is the mettler H80 that woelen very generously sold me.
4)the top 4 bottles are nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acid and ethanol refills. to the left is a cupboard with glasware
5)the same as #3 but without the dust cover. i carefully scraped off the glue-like stuff on the front and cleaned the glass.
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[*] posted on 25-9-2012 at 10:04


its place for wine drinking not for chemistry :)
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[*] posted on 25-9-2012 at 11:59


Why? because t is a cellar?
it's full of somebody's junk, not wine lol.
PS:who says chemistry and wine can't go together? :D

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[*] posted on 25-9-2012 at 12:54


safety rules :D
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[*] posted on 25-9-2012 at 13:00


lol,
a celebration after a successful synth. is ok though. lol




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[*] posted on 25-9-2012 at 13:23


Quote: Originally posted by Pyro  

PS:who says chemistry and wine can't go together? :D


Here here! I was going to throw away about 25 L of a really bad batch but then I thought 'distillation!' :)

Nice place to set up; evokes images of the labs of old. Are you on good terms with the owner then? I can't imagine anyone I didn't know very, very well allowing me to set up a lab in their property!




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[*] posted on 25-9-2012 at 13:31


hes my dad's friend. big property owner. we are on good terms.
its a nice place, but messy. the floor is full of stuff as you can see on a few of my pics




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[*] posted on 29-9-2012 at 11:27
My lab


After seeing everyone else's pics and viewing magpies awesome hood I thought I'd post a few of my lab in progress.

I started building this lab in May of this year, to be added soon are shelves opposite of the bench and a flammables cabinet and a fume hood.

The distill rig is starting a standard nitric acid run, and the yellow filtering flask is a uranium extraction in progress. Appropriately the bench is from ORNL's X-10 division (wiki it), part of our nuclear/national security complex.

One nice thing about having a national lab next door is a LOT of chemical and lab suppliers, although not many are great about selling to the public.

ATM I only have a vacuum aspirator on the other end of the garage and a line ran on the ceiling dropping down above the bench, and the last pic is of a desk for paperwork/computer research about 10' from the lab bench.
There is also a de-humidifier behind the bench that is handy for keeping lab humidity down and accelerating crystallizations.

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