Deceitful_Frank
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TNP and Ammonium Picrate
This may seem a little far fetched but the other day I was at the "range", this is a large store that seems to sell pretty much everything
and anything... maybe similar to the "walmart" that some of you guys have in the states and in canada.
I noticed that they sold mothkiller but not as napthalene but as 98.5% 1,4 dichlorobenzene and earlier today I learned that TNP can be made very
efficiently from chlorobenzene.
Any ideas on how to get rid of that other chlorine atom (if this is necessary) or should I just go out and find the cheapest source of asprin
available?
Also, what do you chaps think of converting TNP to ammonium picrate? Is it more powerful, safer or a better explosive than the former? I have heard
that ammonium picrate is similar in power and sensitivity to TNT though I am not sure if is castable and as "usable"
Thanks in advance
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BromicAcid
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Check out orgsyn.org
REDUCTION OF ORGANIC HALIDES. CHLOROBENZENE TO BENZENE
Submitted by: D. Bryce-Smith and B. J. Wakefield
Checked by: William G. Dauben and Louis E. Friedrich
Published in Annual Volume 47, page 103
Collective Volume 5, page 998
Substitute the quantity of chlorobenzene required by an equimolar quantity of your paradichlorobenzene, you'll end up with some benzene and some
dichlorobenene remaining but likely you will get a respectable yield of chlorobenzene. The only real hangup to the reaction is the solvent used
although a substitue could likely be found. Mind you that 2-propanol is just isopropyl alcohol in the reaction if you decide to follow up on it.
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The_Davster
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I was thinking about this myself a while ago, but for the chlorobenzene, not to make picric out of. I just thouht of this now, it should work in
theory, but some side reactions I may not have thought of may occur.. React the PDCB with 1mol ratio of silver nitrite, for p-nitrochlorobenzene,
reduce using whatever, Sn in HCl perhaps, diazotize, react with (I think) ethanol(specific conditions here, which I forget currently) and you are at
chlorobenzene!
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Rosco Bodine
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The following patents are relevant
US1366048
GB126685
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