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Quantum
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Wired Magazine has an article about Amateur Chemistry
I got in the post the latest Wired and it has a good article about amature chemistry - it even quotes Polverone! For some reason I can't find it on
the web however.
EbC Title spelling....
[Edited on 30-5-2006 by chemoleo]
What if, what is isn\'t true?
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Polverone
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Oh, cool. Yes, I was interviewed for this article, and think (hope) that it may have other information about this site and the members here. It also
has information about United Nuclear, right? I was told about a month ago that it would be published in early June, so I wasn't expecting to see it
this early. I should be getting some free copies of the print edition, but I was hoping it would be online so I could see it now.
PGP Key and corresponding e-mail address
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BromicAcid
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Is this the May issue or the June issue, I'd like to pick it up and see something about sciencemadness in print and that might help. Overall is it a
good article?
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Yeah, I am picking up whichever issue this is in as well. I cannot seem to find it on their website in may's issue.
Hows about a signed copy Polv?
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Darkblade48
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I can't seem to find the article on their website either. Can anyone provide a scan of the article?
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I thumbed through the current issue at a newstand today. No luck.
[Edited on 23-5-2006 by rogue chemist]
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Polverone
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Sure, rogue chemist, I'll sign an issue for you if you'll sign one for me.
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The article is in the June issue. I think it is well written and very supportive of amateur chemistry.
(It's too bad they couldn't quote Polverone on his feelings about the CSPC.  )
The single most important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem
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I would like to read it albeit Wired has gotten a piece of sold out shit.
I still have a print issue from the 90´s where they state under what made this possible "caffeine, amphetamines and...."
With amounts used. To the gram.
Now that was the days.....
[Edited on 25-5-2006 by Organikum]
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Twas a good read!
I scanned it.
(on rapidshare because was too big for an attachment)
http://rapidshare.de/files/21390828/wired_amateur_chemistry....
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It's pretty sick and disturbing to see 1984 become reality.
How did that line go again? "And they will cheer their doom"? (It was something along those lines)
#261501 +(11351)- [X]
the \"bishop\" came to our church today
he was a fucken impostor
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courtesy of bash
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Terrorist threat and over protection = brain drain/society of wusses
It sure isn't the same when I was a backyard chemist 35 years ago... I could buy almost anything. But today, well...
http://wired.com/wired/archive/14.06/chemistry.html
EbC: Merged threads.. .
[Edited on 30-5-2006 by chemoleo]
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chemoleo
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Heh- and sciencemadness is mentioned!!!
On page 2:
| Quote: | | The increasingly strict regulatory climate has driven a wedge of paranoia between young chemists and their potential mentors. “I don’t tell anyone
about what I do at home,” writes one anonymous high schooler on Sciencemadness.org, an online forum for amateur scientists. “A lot of ignorant
people at my school will just spread rumors about me … The teacher will hear about them and I will get into legal trouble … I have so much
glassware at my house, any excuse will not cut it. So I keep my mouth shut.” |
Never Stop to Begin, and Never Begin to Stop...
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Yep, scans of the article were posted a few weeks ago too. More on page 4:
| Quote: | . . . self-proclaimed “mad scientists” are creating a research underground on Web sites like Sciencemadness, . . .
One key to working as a DIY chemist, says Matthew Ernst, the 25-year-old host of Sciencemadness, is realizing how many useful chemicals are still
available . . . |
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digaman
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Thanks for the link to my article in Wired, guys.
Polverone: Please send me your snail mail address and I will send you copies of the magazine. Thanks again for your help!
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| Quote: | | 'Kids read about the great scientists and their discoveries throughout history, and marvel that people once did these things,” Lazar says. “But
they marvel a little too much. Taking chemicals and lab equipment away from kids who love science is like taking crayons and paints away from a kid
who may grow up to be an artist.” |
Why are kids emphasised so much here? Looking at the number of graduates here, the kids probably make up the minority!
| Quote: | | To ensure that the tradition of home chemistry survives, self-proclaimed “mad scientists” are creating a research underground on Web sites like
Sciencemadness, Readily Available Chemicals, and the International Order of Nitrogen. There, in comfortable anonymity, seasoned
experimenters, novices, and connoisseurs of banned molecules share tips on finding alternative sources for chemicals and labware.
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Heh- I am a fish is in there as well!
| Quote: | | Yep, scans of the article were posted a few weeks ago too. |
where? I've been away...
Some more:
| Quote: | | One kid whose interest in science was sparked by the gift of a chemistry set was Don Herbert, who grew up to host a popular TV show in the 1950s
called Watch Mr. Wizard. With his eye-popping demonstrations and low-key midwestern manner, Mr. Wizard gave generations of future
scientists and teachers the confidence to perform experiments at home. |
How old are you again, Mr. Wizard?
[Edited on 30-5-2006 by chemoleo]
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 I'm not that Mr. Wizard, but I do remember watching him on TV, and I
did take the name because him. Let's face it, nobody gets into science because they want to do the dull stuff. You want to see metals melt, see colors
where none existed, generate pops , bangs and fizzes, make interesting crystals, and maybe even a little exotic colored flames. You then realize you
have to learn something to do it. You develop an interest, and without an interest you won't learn chemistry or any other science. Another factor is
the curiosity about why things happen and what makes the universe, and our little part of it world work. Without these incentives our technological
world won't advance.
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> Why are kids emphasised so much here?
Because one of the main subjects of my article was how home chemistry gets kids interested in science, and how the laws that inhibit home
experimentation may be responsible for declining interest in science in later years. But I certainly don't *only* talk about kids in the article.
Thanks for reading.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chemoleo
| Quote: | | Yep, scans of the article were posted a few weeks ago too. |
where? I've been away...
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Here's the link, courtesy of rogue chemist
http://rapidshare.de/files/21390828/wired_amateur_chemistry....
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digaman
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You don't have to read the scan anymore...
http://wired.com/wired/archive/14.06/chemistry_pr.html
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excellent article!
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digaman
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thanks!
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It is pretty novel to actually meet (albeit online) the person who wrote such a good article. Keep up the good work! What made you choose to do an
article on amateur chemistry? You must have some interest in it(perhaps a closet chemist yourself ?)
Perhaps some sort of a follow up article sometime?
(But my scan has all the pretty pictures)
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This article is great! It may even decrease entusiasm of some people who honestly think that they do good by outlawing everything.
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Digaman, I also was very pleased to read that article. I also mentioned it already on a dutch chemistry forum (chemieforum.nl) and let's see how they
respond. At that place there also are quite some people who think home-chemistry is not good at all (that forum is more directed towards school-kids
and students, asking for help with homework, and professionals, working in company/university labs). Your article will spread throughout many forums
very soon and I'm sure it does help home-chemistry.
Thanks!
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