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Collected threads re: Dr. Yong & related topics
Hello,
Here's the original news article.
http://www.cambstimes.co.uk/news/gallery_man_33_bailed_on_su...
The attached open letters and material below came into my Inbox recently.
Dr. Yong was a bona fide contractor working with the Defence Science & Technology Laboratory, part of the UK Ministry of Defence.
His last contract with them pertained to building a portable blood fridge that kept blood cool using the endothermic hydration of ammonium nitrate. He
bought ammonium nitrate pursuant to his contract with Dstl.
The police came to his house, and Dstl witnesses gave concurring false testimonies to the police, saying that the agreed option to refrigerate the
blood was to use sodium hydroxide 
As a result he was locked up in prison for 2 months on remand until the police/prosecution got an expert chemist to tell them that sodium hydroxide
could not work as a refrigerant in the capacity described by concurring Dstl witnesses. Dr. Yong was then released from prison.
He endured 14 months of criminal proceedings which ended in January. Eventually, the most serious Section 4 Explosives Act 1883 charges were dropped,
and 4 new charges under the Health & Safety at Work Act 1973 were brought in. A conviction was not secured on the new charges.
Moral of the story:
1. Even if you have bona fide UK government contracts and a high security clearance, if you have a chemistry lab at home, you are a terrorism suspect.
2. The level of education in the UK has fallen so far that mid-high ranking officers in the Defence Science & Technology Laboratory have no clue
that adding water to sodium hydroxide is an exothermic reaction, while adding water to ammonium nitrate is an endothermic reaction. If you are going
to collude to lie, at least do your homework to keep your lies consistent with the laws of chemistry!
3. Apparently, the UK police and Crown Prosecution Service believe Dstl witnesses in preference to the laws of chemical thermodynamics.
4. In 2012, the UK Ministry of Defence publicly asked its contractors to help them with "Finding the Threat". Dr. Yong thought about the problem and
figured out how to make a high vapour pressure neurotoxin using readily available equipment and chemicals. He was asked to submit the security threat
to UK MOD in writing, and three weeks later his house was raided. If you think of similar public security risks, do yourself a favor, don't be a chump
and tell the government, or you will become a security risk yourself in this day and age of chemophobia.
5. Spread the word. If you can find anyone who is in a position to assist Dr. Yong, particularly in terms of legal action (particularly in the
malicious prosecution, wrongful imprisonment, breach of contract or human rights areas) or media/publicity, please contact him directly. His company
was Novel Defence Engineering.
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[Edited on 20-9-2014 by Harbinger]
[Edited on 29-3-2015 by Bert]
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British government treachery: CPS' deceit to try to get a conviction of a Dstl contractor
Dear Sciecemadness folk,
If you are thinking of working with Dstl (Defence Science & Technology Laboratory - part of the UK Ministry of Defence) - think again.
Lessons:
1. Don't work with, work for, help or trust the British government.
2. The British government makes a big fuss about human rights and rule of law, but they are the biggest breakers of it.
Hope you find the material informative.
Re: Dr. Yong/Dstl/CPS/Cambridgeshire police case
Some of the deceit employed by the British Crown Prosecution Service, to achieve a conviction.
Summary:
Malicious prosecution to shut down and end the career of a well-meaning British scientist/contractor, who identified a serious security risk at the
British government's request in the form of an improvised nerve gas generator. The British government repaid Dr. Yong's goodwill for the safety of the
British public with a stab in the back - 2 months wrongful imprisonment, 14 months sham prosecution and a ruined life/career.
We have received some documents about this case, and have decided to make them public.
Original indictment, 8/3/12:
http://document.li/FTP3
Correspondence between Sir Jim Paice, MP and Dr. Yong, 19/11/12:
http://document.li/04d4/
Correspondence between the Solicitor General, Oliver Heald MP, and Sir Jim Paice, 13/11/12:
http://document.li/I2S8/
New indictment, 7/11/12:
http://document.li/j6Q6
Pre-trial review court proceedings, 18/11/12:
http://document.li/iyGw
Letter from Dr. Yong's solicitor, to CPS, 21/11/12:
http://document.li/L9Jb
CPS' response, 28/11/12:
http://document.li/ykYS
Explanation:
1. The original indictment is provided: http://document.li/FTP3 . Dr. Yong was imprisoned on these charges. The Explosives Act offences are indictable offences which require the Attorney
General's consent to charge. No such consent was obtained until after Dr. Yong was bailed from prison on 3/5/15.
2. Dr. Yong was an established Dstl contractor with an ongoing Dstl contract, a high security clearance that involved counter-terror checks and had
bought the chemicals pursuant to his past, ongoing and future work with Dstl. Hence Dr. Yong enquired with the Attorney General, via his MP and
unbeknownst to the CPS, whether the Attorney General had indeed consented to his prosecution. Dr. Yong's MP's response is provided here: http://document.li/04d4/
His MP, Sir Jim Paice, clearly understands that the Explosives Act offences have been dropped, and Health & Safety/regulatory offences brought in
instead.
3. It turns out that the Solicitor General, Oliver Heald MP did briefly consent to charging Dr. Yong - after he was released on bail from prison -
which makes the charges on which he was remanded into custody on improper, and hence the detention unlawful. The Attorney General then withdrew his
consent, after the Defence served papers and appropriate supporting documentation, such as his Dstl contracts.
The Solicitor General's letter clearly stated that a new indictment would be served on Dr. Yong, where the Explosives Act charges would be dropped and
new Health & Safety charges brought in. The defence would be informed of this on 7 Nov 2012.
http://document.li/I2S8/
4. The CPS were represented by David Matthew of Seven Bedford Row and Marti Blair, Crown Prosecutor.
Apparently intent on convicting Dr. Yong by any means necessary (we will get to the false Dstl/Cambridgeshire police witness statements in a later
post, and absurd evidence such as a chicken soup shopping receipt in a foreign language) decided to deceive the Honorable Judge, Court, Defence and
Solicitor General.
Their letter on 7 Nov 2012 is here:
http://document.li/j6Q6
The letter states that new Health & Safety charges have been added, IN ADDITION to the existing Explosives Act charges.
5. Furthermore, according to the pre-trial court proceedings on 18 Nov 2012, there can be no ambiguity that the CPS intended to deceive all involved,
by presenting the dropped charges as still viable. David Matthew said the CPS will accept guilty pleas for the Health & Safety charges, in
exchange for dropping the Explosives Act charges.
The court proceedings can be found here:
http://document.li/iyGw
6. A letter from Dr. Yong's solicitor, condemning the CPS' ploy:
http://document.li/L9Jb
7. Response from the CPS, caught in the act and finally dropping the Explosives Act charges:
http://document.li/ykYS
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Improvised nerve gas generator proposal for UK MOD, and the outcome
Dear Sciencemadness folk,
Don't even try thinking about trusting/working with/working for/helping the treacherous British government. They have no concept of quid pro quo and
repay good with evil. Spread the word.
Dr. Yong worked with the British government (see attached contract documents). Naturally, Dr. Yong had a high security clearance which included
counter-terror checks.
Dr. Yong discovered and told the British government, at their request, about a security risk in the form of a portable, improvised nerve gas generator
(see attached redacted document).
This is the outcome:
http://www.cambstimes.co.uk/news/gallery_man_33_bailed_on_su...
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[Edited on 26-3-2015 by HMG Treachery]
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I can't view the content.
What chemicals are we talking about? And what are the claims again?
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We have uploaded the files to the SM server.
We understand that Dr. Yong had a laboratory/workshop as part of his past, ongoing and future work with Dstl. It had a lot of chemicals but the CPS
cherry-picked the possible combinations which could be used to make explosives in the future (named in the indictment were RDX &
HMTD), and left context out of the picture by ignoring the explosively-benign chemicals such as sodium hydroxide, potassium chloride, silica gel,
ethanol, methanol, hydrochloric acid, etc.
There is an explicit, open license to the public to possess rocket candy for model rocket purposes, pursuant to Schedule 1 Part 2 of the UK's Control
of Explosives Regulations 1991. We will also be posting in another thread how Dr. Yong actually asked Cambridgeshire police if it would be OK to make
rocket candy, and they did not advise him it would be illegal to do so. It is perverse to prosecute him despite there being such a license to the
public, and despite his enquiries to the police in good faith.
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What does the nerve agent have anything to do with most of the attachments here? What exactly happened?
What is he being charged with?
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Looks like he got caught on gun charges, and then had some very general reagents, that if intended could be brought together under very specific
circumstances to form the compounds of interest by the police.
So what does the nerve gas have to do with anything?
[Edited on 27-3-2015 by Loptr]
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From our understanding, in 2012 as a result of the UK's new budget, the remit of the UK Ministry of Defence expanded from defence to defence and
security. They asked their contractors (Dr. Yong was a Dstl/MOD contractor) to help find security risks to the public with the promise of funding to
research and mitigate these risks.
The DIY method to make an improvised nerve agent was identified and proposed by our good Dr. as a potential risk to the British government. The
results were two police raids, 2 months wrongful imprisonment, 14 months kangaroo court proceedings and a destroyed reputation. The UK Poisons Act was
amended 2 years later in 2014 to reflect the precursors.
The charges that were brought against him were all baseless charges and he was eventually aquitted of all chemical-related charges. The charges are on
the Indictment on the other page. Essentially they accused him of "causing or preparing to cause an unlawful explosion" and then changed it to
improper storage of chemicals.
Lessons:
1. You do not need to be guilty of anything to have your life destroyed by the British government (and certainly others). Mere accusations are enough;
you can spend the rest of your life and your savings trying to clear your reputation.
2. The British government will prosecute you not necessarily because they think you're guilty, but for other reasons as they see fit (we will go into
more of this later)
3. Do not trust/work with/work for/help the British government in any way. They are treacherous betrayers with no concept of quid pro quo.
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Did you spot the deceit by the CPS?
If not, re-read the documents and pay careful attention to the dates.
The CPS told the Attorney General that they would drop the Explosives Act charges (which he was imprisoned on remand). They then offered Dr. Yong a
Fool's Deal to plead guilty to lesser Health & Safety charges in exchange for dropping the already dropped charges. The CPS also tried to fool the
court, judge and the Attorney General by their deceit.
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Thought we'd also include his security clearance, which we obtained along with other documents. It was active at the time of the police raid on Nov
23, 2012, his imprisonment and being charged with Explosive Act offences.
So even being known by the system, working for/with the system and having a high security clearance does not protect you from suspicion. In this day
and age just knowing too much already makes you a suspect. It is better to be dumb and ignorant, busy playing computer games or fussing about what a
film star is wearing or who s/he is sleeping with.
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Messing with Large Mafia groups is always dangerous, and should be avoided wherever possible.
Governments happily kill people as well, depending on how beneficial to them they feel it may be.
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At least the mafia have a concept of quid pro quo! Can't say the same of the British government.
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This is all very fishy and ambiguous.
I am not the most familiar with UK laws, in fact actually pretty ignorant, but it sounds like something that happened to LittleGhost2. And we haven't
heard from him in a while.
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Are you Dr. Yong? 
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HMG, I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by posting this case here. It certainly won't do Dr Yong's case much good, as few here will be
motivated to trawl through these documents to detect the 'CPS's deceit'. I hope I'm wrong on that.
If you are, for whatever reason, trying to draw attention to Dr.Yong's case, I suggest you start a specific blog about it and maybe get some online
petitions going to draw to traffic to it. SM is merely an amateur science blog, not renowned for its legal eagles. I doubt if any member here works
with HMG or the MoD on science/technology related matters, never mind nerve gases.
As regards:
| Quote: | If you are thinking of working with Dstl (Defence Science & Technology Laboratory - part of the UK Ministry of Defence) - think again.
Lessons:
1. Don't work with, work for, help or trust the British government.
2. The British government makes a big fuss about human rights and rule of law, but they are the biggest breakers of it. |
That's such opinionated hyperbole that it's clear you're suffering from cognitive bias. Stick to the facts and let others decide who or what they'll
believe.
Has this been reported/discussed anywhere in British print media/alter media so far? If so, where?
[Edited on 27-3-2015 by blogfast25]
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Threads merged.
Damn. I don't have moderator powers for some inexplicable reason.
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Having read the documents, frankly the dates are rather uninteresting.
Clearly the CPS has been instructed to hound you until some sort of conviction is arrived at, thereby disabling your reputation and certainly barr you
permanently out of any government work, either directly or via a contractor.
It's the normal way they deal with workers who piss them off somehow, circumventing pension rights, severance pay, etc etc.
The fact that you're still alive indicates that :-
1. The work you were doing was not very sensitive.
2. Any knowledge you were given was of a low security nature.
3. Any information you hold is of no practical threat to any high-ranking serving HMG officer.
The key things you have omitted to disclose is Why all of this came to pass.
Principally, what did you actually do in order to piss off HMG so throughly ?
Secondly, why on earth did you have a pathetic 'explosive' mixture hanging around ?
All i can think of is that you did in fact discover/rediscover some portable nerve agent process, and tried to get some cash out of them for that, on
top of normal wages.
I stand to be corrected.
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People go offline for all sorts of reasons, so don't go all Secret Service about it.
Zombie recently went all quiet too.
Arkoma has been off since a short time before LG2 came online.
Don't get it wrong : Governments are identical to Mafias, just Bigger.
The USA Mafia, sorry, Government is one of the biggest.
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I was just speaking to the similarity of a pytotechnic chemical gone wrong in the UK.
Yeah, where is Zombie?? I havent heard from him recently.
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HMG:
Why have you now opened a SECOND thread on the same subject? It smacks of desperation.
I'm still not convinced of HMG's wrongdoing in this case. For instance:
| Quote: | | At least the mafia have a concept of quid pro quo! Can't say the same of the British government. |
...is emotive twaddle and nonsensical. Even if Dr.Yong was the finest and most upstanding citizen with a record of usefulness to HMG, that would not
even absolve him from a traffic offence, never mind something more serious. That's how the Law is SUPPOSED to work. 'Quid pro quo' simply doesn't come
into it.
Please don't start anymore threads on this thing.
A moderator should now merge these two threads.
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The arrest was publicized in the Telegraph, I believe. I did see a story on it when it occurred, though I am not from that region.
As for Little_Ghost, I hope he is doing alright, but he did mention being terminally ill.
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One dstl contract is about research into "Self-limiting shape charge jets", another research topic involved nerve gas-related research.
From that cambstimes article (webpage, your link):
| Quote: | | Police dogs, a bomb disposal unit and a specialist search team were called to the incident. Investigations took place inside the property and in a
nearby garage. |
If Dr.Yong was researching these subjects in a domestic dwelling and a "nearby garage", then despite having relevant licenses, he may have been
breaking several Laws at once. The Law being what it is (complex for starters and sometimes self-contradictory), one thing does not necessarily
exclude the other. Licenses to conduct certain types of research doesn't free one of other obligations re. storage (e.g.) of certain materials.
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Quote: Originally posted by Chemosynthesis  | The arrest was publicized in the Telegraph, I believe. I did see a story on it when it occurred, though I am not from that region.
As for Little_Ghost, I hope he is doing alright, but he did mention being terminally ill. |
Unless the Dr was named, it could be hard to find the article via Google. It's likely to be unreliable anyway.
Yes, Little_Ghost is terminally ill.
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| Quote: Originally posted by blogfast25 | One dstl contract is about research into "Self-limiting shape charge jets", another research topic involved nerve gas-related research.
From that cambstimes article (webpage, your link):
| Quote: | | Police dogs, a bomb disposal unit and a specialist search team were called to the incident. Investigations took place inside the property and in a
nearby garage. |
If Dr.Yong was researching these subjects in a domestic dwelling and a "nearby garage", then despite having relevant licenses, he may have been
breaking several Laws at once. The Law being what it is (complex for starters and sometimes self-contradictory), one thing does not necessarily
exclude the other. Licenses to conduct certain types of research doesn't free one of other obligations re. storage (e.g.) of certain materials.
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Dr. Yong did not break any laws as you describe. If he did he would have been successfully prosecuted on them. Furthermore the fact that Dstl issued
him contracts on the basis of the work proposed and the working/storage conditions attests to the fact that even they were satisfed with the proposal.
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I am not, the material came to my Inbox about a week ago.
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