toothpick93
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Elemental Sodium from slag
I done the reaction between Magnesium and Sodium today and when I broke up the slag that had formed I saw what reminded me of veins of ore in stone.
What is this? I know I have beads of sodium (circled as yellow) just I'm curious to know what it is circled in red.
Also I used vegetable oil instead of mineral as I had none, this is why it might like a but frothy.
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| Quote: | | I done the reaction between Magnesium and Sodium |
What do you mean ? I think it was reaction between magnesium and sodium hydroxide ? Did you use any catalyst ? Did you use magnesium powder or pieces
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Toss the slag in water. If you see bubbles of hydrogen, then it's sodium. If you don't see any, it's magnesium.
Smells like ammonia....
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A white product from a magnesium reduction? Like... Magnesium oxide and hydroxide?
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This reaction has been proven to produce sodium metal, but in god-awful quantities. Have you seen Nighthawkinlight's video on separating out the
metal?
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Next in Line: Nd
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I looked at this method ages ago and decided it just wasn't good enough.
Check this out.........................
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=9797
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Quote: Originally posted by ave369  | | Toss the slag in water. If you see bubbles of hydrogen, then it's sodium. If you don't see any, it's magnesium. |
Magnesium will also liberate Hydrogen on contact with water, though no where near as vigorously as Sodium.
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Persian king" - Johann Joachim Becher, 1635 to 1682.
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Yous used vegetable oil?! Then this clumps should be no sodium any more, since vegetable oil is a glycerine ester of fatty acids, which of cause react
under this highly alkaline conditions. You should get mineral oil in every home depot, check the MSDS for the contents and make sure it has a high
boiling point and contains most saturated hydrocarbons.
The clumps are maybe just magnesium(hydr)oxides and various other byproducts clumping together, but non the less be careful because the sodium could
be just surrounded by a thick layer of various salts.
You always have time to do some chemistry, but maybe you just have other priorities?
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