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[*] posted on 26-10-2015 at 16:43
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/zimbabwe-22-more-elephan...

Like to say its disgusting what is done to nature by human hands.

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[*] posted on 26-10-2015 at 22:29


It is really disgusting. Killing animals for money. Worse than cooking drugs. This is why I respect animals more than humans.
>What this post does with chemistry? Cyanide, but no prepararion or anything.
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[*] posted on 27-10-2015 at 20:43


What happens to rhinos is worse than that. At least, the tusks collected from elephants have a logical use. But the rhino horns, these the poachers collect for Chinese baloney, eye-of-newt medicine!

Why don't they switch to homeopathy? Same level of baloney, same effectiveness. But the homeopathic pills are made of sugar, which isn't rare at all, unlike rhinos!



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[*] posted on 27-10-2015 at 22:42


Not all Chinese medicine is bunk, but the rhino horn stuff mostly is. I'm sure rhino horn contains lots of nutrients, but there are surely more effective sources.

Homeopathy, on the other hand, is unadulterated hogwash.
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[*] posted on 29-10-2015 at 06:04


Quote: Originally posted by JJay  
Not all Chinese medicine is bunk, but the rhino horn stuff mostly is. I'm sure rhino horn contains lots of nutrients, but there are surely more effective sources.

Homeopathy, on the other hand, is unadulterated hogwash.


No, it is 10X diluted hogwash!
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[*] posted on 29-10-2015 at 06:11


Quote: Originally posted by JJay  
I'm sure rhino horn contains lots of nutrients


Can't get your keratin any other way . . .




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[*] posted on 29-10-2015 at 06:31


I'm pretty sure a big bite of sand would be more nutritious than rhino horn.

Edit: but I would be more than happy to supply you with some horse hoof scrapings as the stuff is the same and they are evolutionary even sort of closely related. Or go to Asia and get some pork knuckles... even closer related to rhinos.



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[*] posted on 29-10-2015 at 09:09


Quote: Originally posted by Cheddite Cheese  
Can't get your keratin any other way . . .

... apart from biting your fingernails.

Toenails if you're a contortionist.




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[*] posted on 29-10-2015 at 16:38


Most of these herbal medicine-type things, even if there is a grain of truth behind them, are completely eclipsed by modern medicine anyway. Not mentioning any specific names here but...
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[*] posted on 30-10-2015 at 08:55


1.Get a ton of hair/nails
2.Grind it to a fine powder
3.Compress into a honk
4.Sell it for good $$
5.Repeat step 1. 2. 3. 4. and became rich.
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[*] posted on 30-10-2015 at 09:06


Quote: Originally posted by Upsilon  
Most of these herbal medicine-type things, even if there is a grain of truth behind them, are completely eclipsed by modern medicine anyway. Not mentioning any specific names here but...


I once reviewed a database containing the medical records of approximately 4000 patients who had been treated with Chinese herbs. Traditional Chinese medical treatments can be split into a few categories:

1. Bunk
2. Mostly bunk
3. Possibly useful - could potentially be investigated by modern medicine
4. Harmful

I would place rhino horn in the "mostly bunk" category. Bentonite would be bunk. Hemlock is harmful. Ginseng should be investigated further.
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[*] posted on 30-10-2015 at 12:28


Chinese medicine is where big pharm spends a lot of time looking for fresh leads.

Rhino horn is probably bogus, but plenty of traditional herbs, have legs.

Most recently, the Chinese government has devoted a lot of research into herbal medicines.

Necessity, of course, being the mother of this invention, also.

They simply cannot afford to manufacture or buy, the sheer volumes of Western medicines, required to treat their ailing masses.

Dan Shen Pian, once a small time hanger on, turns out to be very effective for a number of conditions. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25178948

Milk thistle, is very effective for nurturing your battered liver. https://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/milk-thistle

And, Artemesia has done good things in Africa, where it has proven to be a big time antimalarial. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisinin

True many traditional treatments are bogus, but Fool's Gold.....Exists only because there is such a thing as Real Gold.

Oh yeah, Ginko..... Seems to work for me. Seems to make me mentally sharper. Though, I'm not sure that is a good thing.

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/333.htm...

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[*] posted on 21-11-2015 at 13:22


Do you know by which logic they use rhino horn, and for what? For treating erectile dysfunction. Because rhino horn looks like an erect cock. Is this "mostly" bunk? I think it is damn perfect bunk. Same as sugar pills.



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[*] posted on 22-11-2015 at 07:44


I'm curious about this plant called Devil's Club that is closely related to ginseng and grows in huge thickets.
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