NeonPulse
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jared ledgard at it again.
Whilst trawling ebay for bits and pieces as i sometimes do i came across this little gem:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Make-nitric-acid-and-learn-about-...
I thought that jared ledgards books were not really all that good and now he is seemingly trying to profit from preperations easily found for free
elsewhere. Some of his suggestions in his explosive preperations "manual" were downright dangerous and some even quoted non existent patents too. im
not willing to waste my money to find out how much of a waste of money buying this would be. $23.30 fro post considering he is only going to email you
is a total ripoff in my opinion... Has anybody here bought this information?
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arkoma
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looks no different really than his other crap, which BTW is "free/rippable off" at libgen and bookzz. (they are still up, in spite of it all---GO
PIRATES)
"We believe the knowledge and cultural heritage of mankind should be accessible to all people around the world, regardless of their wealth, social
status, nationality, citizenship, etc" z-lib
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careysub
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Check out my comment on his chemical warfare agent book:
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=30854
(Cut to the chase: the material is a mix of dangerous and laughable.)
[Edited on 20-12-2015 by careysub]
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The_Davster
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Ledgard's writings are a business, not chemical information you actually want to use for a preparation. His books on energetics often contain enough
reality that many of them would work, but mixed in are blatent mistakes that could seriously injure you. If he holds himself to the same quality as
in his explosives books, this one is likely to be similar.
There is no information he offers that cannot be found in the depths of this forum.
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IrC
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Has no one considered there is an agenda behind such books? If I were the establishment desiring to eliminate the crazy radicals I might have such
books made in order to allow the Darwin award scenario to eliminate the troublemakers. Picture late 60's radical rabble rousing. Along comes the
Anarchists Cookbook. I have no doubt that single title caused the self elimination of more evil wackos than all J Edgar Hoovers minions could ever
dream of. But that's just me.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" Richard Feynman
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Marvin
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That's plausible but I remember when the guy was around forums turn of the millennium touting his books. He sounded like a fantasist. Thought that
writing them before he went to university was a defence when errors were pointed out, and seemed convinced that the US government were about to give
him a contract to supply the armed forces with his manuals. Most of the posts and most of the forums are gone now, I did look a few years ago.
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IrC
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No doubt your right just as the author of the cookbook likely believed they understood and were knowledgeable in the subject they were writing. Yet I
can picture some of those alphabet agencies seeing a way to use them for their goals. Something like secretly paying a publisher to print more copies
of a book that had poor sales in order to saturate the lunatic fringe with the means of their own demise. If you knew how they think and operate it is
not much of a stretch of the imagination. One way to validate the theory is to compare the little flak given to these two writers to that received by
one who really did know what he was writing, such as the man living in Alpena, Arkansas.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" Richard Feynman
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The_Davster
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Can you elaborate on this?
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IrC
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Don Sisco AKA Kurt Saxon
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" Richard Feynman
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franklyn
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The books on explosives were some of what he compiled. Many others were do it yourself survival preper craft. He
lost much of one hand in a mishap.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GhcCtTCuME
www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/05/14/police-find-explosive...
[Edited on 27-12-2015 by franklyn]
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www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-10-28/cointelpro-techniques-dilution-misdirection-and-control-internet-forum https://web.archive.org/web/20120814124000/www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/08/the-15-rules-of-internet-disinformation.html
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mayko
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Can you be more specific about the flak that Saxon caught but Powell did not? I've poked around online and, besides garden-variety articles about the
free speech implications of Saxon's books (Powell got plenty of this), the worst he faced was some low-intensity LE investigations after genuinely
eyebrow-raising behavior on his part:
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According to Saxon, during the 1960s he sent brochures about The Militant's Formulary to "several thousand" police and fire chiefs. His stated purpose
was that, as a result of several officers being killed by "improvised weaponry directed at them by radicals", police and fire departments could use
the literature "to recognize improvised bombs and such and their common components". However, some of the recipients believed Saxon to be a radical,
and sent letters stating this fact to the police in Saxon's hometown of Eureka, California. In response, the chief of the Eureka Police Department
replied with letters assuring the others that Saxon was "on their side".[citation needed]
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(note- the earliest publication date I've seen listed for the Militant's Formulary is 1971)
The most striking contrast I can see between Powell and Saxon is that the latter was provided with a privileged, influential platform, which he used
to promote some rather nasty viewpoints:
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In August 1970, he appeared before a Senate Investigations subcommittee holding hearings on bombings and terrorism. According to newspaper accounts,
he suggested police and "concerned citizens" use bombs to wipe out "leftists," and recommended that student demonstrators be machine-gunned in the
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Poor_Man%27s_James_Bond
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Saxon
al-khemie is not a terrorist organization
"Chemicals, chemicals... I need chemicals!" - George Hayduke
"Wubbalubba dub-dub!" - Rick Sanchez
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IrC
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Stories from him since I lived very close to his old residence in Alpena. According to him the visits were more frequent and annoying than those
articles indicate. But he has been in a rest home unable to care for himself anymore for a few years now, so confirmation would be a little hard to
get. You can assume he liked to exaggerate around the campfire or consider maybe the writers of those links don't know everything. In any case I don't
know anyone who has been able to talk to him for some time now. When you get to his stage mere existence is difficult enough. Anyone in town you talk
to would tell you he was nice and well liked by all and the occasional noises from his 'experiments' were not exactly unusual in this neck of the
woods.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" Richard Feynman
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