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[*] posted on 24-8-2006 at 01:46
mass balance question


What does it mean an excess of reaction products ?

For exemple: if we have the following reaction

A + B = C + D

the final mass (g) of (C+D) is higher than the initial mass (g)(A+B). Does any exterior factor affect the final result ?
Normally, according Lavoisier, the final product mass should be egal to the initial reactants mass.

Any idea about this ?
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[*] posted on 24-8-2006 at 02:06


All chemical reactions are stopped at equlibrium point. That means that all substances A, B, C and D are always present. The question is in that how quantity of products compares to quantity of reagents in equlibrium. If quantity of reagents is lesser then quantity of products that means that products are in excess. Mathematicaly that's the condition:

Kc = [C]*[D] / [A]*[B]

Kc is equilibrium constant in terms of concentration. If Kc > 1 that means the product excess, if Kc < 1 that means reagent excess, if Kc = 1 that means that quantity of reagents and products are equal.
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[*] posted on 24-8-2006 at 02:21


thanks Engager !

I got your answer about my first question, but about the second I'm still confused.
If we have the right reagents stoechiometric ratio why we have an excess in reaction products ?
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[*] posted on 24-8-2006 at 02:56


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Originally posted by ostaur
thanks Engager !

I got your answer about my first question, but about the second I'm still confused.
If we have the right reagents stoechiometric ratio why we have an excess in reaction products ?


You can imagine product excess in such way. You have for example 1 mol/liter of A and B. Half of that concentration is 0.5 mol/l. If more then 0.5 mol/l of A and B will be converted to C and D that will mean that larger part of reagents is converted to products then remain intact. So you have the products excess. If less then 0.5 mol/l of A and B is converted to C and D, that will mean that the part of converted reagents is smaller then part remaining intact, so you have a reagent excess.

Still confused?

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[*] posted on 25-8-2006 at 00:29


I have the reaction FeCl3+3NaOH=Fe(OH)3+3NaCl

I know the quantity of reactants: 60 g FeCl3 and 110 NaOH
and I obtain 172 g products of reaction under mixture form
how do you calculate the Ke ?
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[*] posted on 25-8-2006 at 09:30


You don't calculate the Ke. You can find it in chemical thermodynamics tables.

If the reaction is complete and the reagents are in the right stoechiometry, then the mass of A+B is equal to C+D.

In your case of iron chloride reaction, it seems complete so you dont need a Ke value.

The Ke value is for incomplete reactions that are at equilibrium.

Like H2O <=> H+ + OH-

Ke = [H][OH]/[H2O]

if the reaction is complete then Ke = infinity because the divider is close to zero.




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