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TetraNitroEthane
Perchlorate is a bit nasty, thyroid disruptor etc, so there have been some pushes to replace it. Something interesting that came out of this is
Tetranitroethane, otherwise known as a compound with an oxygen content of 70.1 and with two nitro groups attached to each carbon. Not surprisingly its
pretty nasty but it's supposedly a bit like nitroglycerine. Here's an article with a brief synthesis outline http://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/2016/CC/C5CC09...
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Potassium or ammonium Perchlorate are pretty damn benign compared to TNE, both in toxicity and general handling characteristics. Not to mention
cheaper, commonly commercially available and transportable as an oxidizer rather than a high explosive.
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I wonder how acidic it is....can you make the sodium salt?
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It seems like the dipotassium salt has been made
before, here's a thread on that http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=19427 this paper has some methods for which a sodium salt could be used instead http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3180899.pdf.
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Quote: Originally posted by Bert  | Potassium or ammonium Perchlorate are pretty damn benign compared to TEN, both in toxicity and general handling characteristics. Not to mention
cheaper, commonly commercially available and transportable as an oxidizer rather than a high explosive.
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Looking at it, I don't know why exactly they are thinking of it as a replacement, probably
something that popped up during testing. It seems to be nice and shock+heat sensitive, I'll stick with my ammonium perchlorate please.
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You obviously confused Tetra-nitro-ethane and Tetra-nitrATo-ethane.
The first one is acidic (dinitronicacid) known for décades.
(O2N)2CH-CH(NO2)2 <==> H-O-N(O)=C(NO2)-C(NO2)=N(O)-O-H
The second one has been synthesized by Klapotke not too long ago.
(O2N-O-)2CH-CH(-O-NO2)2 is non acidic (maybe weakly)
It is a tetranitric ester of the putative 1,1,2,2-ethan-tetrol (glyoxal dihydrate).
If you do a search into the energetic forum you will find information on both compounds...
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| Quote: Originally posted by PHILOU Zrealone | You obviously confused Tetra-nitro-ethane and Tetra-nitrATo-ethane.
The first one is acidic (dinitronicacid) known for décades.
(O2N)2CH-CH(NO2)2 <==> H-O-N(O)=C(NO2)-C(NO2)=N(O)-O-H
The second one has been synthesized by Klapotke not too long ago.
(O2N-O-)2CH-CH(-O-NO2)2 is non acidic (maybe weakly)
It is a tetranitric ester of the putative 1,1,2,2-ethan-tetrol (glyoxal dihydrate).
If you do a search into the energetic forum you will find information on both compounds...
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Thanks for the clarification, I should probably get rid of this
post since it is my first heathen garbage.
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