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[*] posted on 5-4-2016 at 18:52
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Lately I've been seeing what I have to call "pre-beginner" posts. I don't object to a little spoon feeding to the one star guys but really! Should I explain the flow for metal separation? Or oil company rendering plants? I want to support learning. However explaining chemistry that can be easily found on-line seems less than supportive. I find it liberating to find new routes to information and I would be doing a disservice by providing my experience without any kind of challenge. How would nicodem respond to "how do I make ether?" in the organic thread? [It might be a good idea to post a list of chem procedure sites but as soon a one of these becomes popular they start asking for registration and other tracking devices.]



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[*] posted on 5-4-2016 at 19:32


LOL, ya still want pecans?



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[*] posted on 6-4-2016 at 01:20


Well, newbies to the site either figure out the board culture or they don't.

That really should not change what we do. The regulars here and the mods set the tone and culture of the board. So, I suggest we welcome newcomers, be polite, point out that it is not yahoo answers, direct them to the faq, tell them how the place works and what is expected and then get on with some chemistry ourselves.




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[*] posted on 6-4-2016 at 09:29


We all started as beginners. There may be some with ulterior motives (beyond curiosity or interest in science) but it is best to give newcomers the benefit of the doubt.



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[*] posted on 6-4-2016 at 09:44


Well said all..



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[*] posted on 6-4-2016 at 11:25


I am a pretty big noob myself, I think it would be great to have
some kind of tutorial book with all of the basic knowledge and
synthesises for people that are new to chemistry
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[*] posted on 6-4-2016 at 12:36


Quote: Originally posted by Jstuyfzand  
it would be great to have some kind of tutorial book with all of the basic knowledge and synthesises for people that are new to chemistry

Great idea !

Where are you at the moment in Chemistry, and what do you want to try next ?

You write the book and we'll all chip in with ideas !
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[*] posted on 12-4-2016 at 13:25


Quote: Originally posted by Jstuyfzand  
I am a pretty big noob myself, I think it would be great to have
some kind of tutorial book with all of the basic knowledge and
synthesises for people that are new to chemistry


Deeds.. Not words. Not many people who have the knowledge also have time to play around. Unless it is paid you know.
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[*] posted on 12-4-2016 at 16:17


Quote: Originally posted by Jstuyfzand  
I am a pretty big noob myself, I think it would be great to have
some kind of tutorial book with all of the basic knowledge and
synthesises for people that are new to chemistry

If I recall correctly BromicAcid had a project on that a little while ago which is pretty good, that should give you lab basics. The library here also has quite a few nice procedures, and a little theory can't do too bad for basic reactions, maybe get something like a chem set if it isn't beyond your reach.
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[*] posted on 12-4-2016 at 17:03


A five or ten year old college general chemistry textbook and/or organic textbook and/or numerous college laboratory manuals are all available on amazon for $20 or less for each (compared to current editions which sell for $100-200). For the home chemist, pretty much everything he/she needs to know is available in these books. Or one can rely on Wikipedia. In my opinion, when people ask "obvious" questions, they are too lazy to search for an answer (hopefully, they are not too inept to search for an answer...else I hope their home lab is not next door to me).
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