bmays
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Acetonedicarboxylic acid preparation using oxone instead of sulfuric acid.
I've having trouble isolating the product. Any ideas?
The sulfuric acid method did not work out too well for me either, its really hard to isolate because its quite soluble in water. Maybe i should add
ethanol and distill in an effort to get the diethyl ester? Then i'm going to end up with diethyl ether. I don't know.
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Why not start with what you did? It may seem tedious but it's hard to comment without more data.
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I have made a series of attempts. First was roughly 15g of anhydrous citric acid in 50ml hardware store (dried) sulfuric acid. no evolution of gas
overnight at -20c, gas started to evolve at about 0c, i heated to about 40c for 20mins until gas evolution mostly stopped. Quenched with ice and left
in the freezer but nothing precipitated. Next attempt i did the same thing except instead of ice i added ethanol and refluxed for a period of time,
then quenched with ice/water. No layer of the insoluble diester separated, no ester smell was apparent. Attempt 3 was using pool oxone in a 0.05M
ammonium iron(III) sulfate, although i had no real plan on how to separate out the product. I left it in the freezer and filtered the precipitate
which turned out not to be the dicarboxilic acid. I assume extraction with ether might be possible if the aqueous layer was saturated with brine.
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Good thinking! I was also considering using Oxone as a starting material instead of fuming 20% H2SO4 few months ago. It's working. You can skip a step
using Oxone, depending what you're after. Extract Acetonedicarboxylic Acid in Ethyl Acetate.
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