Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Will HCL contaminate H2SO4?
LD5050
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 182
Registered: 16-1-2017
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 11-5-2017 at 18:50
Will HCL contaminate H2SO4?


I used H2SO4 to dry HCL gas by bubbling the HCL through the H2SO4 in a gassing setup. I was wondering if the H2SO4 is Still good to be used for other things or is it not contaminated with HCL? If so how could I purify it again..distillation?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
JJay
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 3440
Registered: 15-10-2015
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 11-5-2017 at 19:32


As long as the water concentration is low, sulfuric acid doesn't absorb HCl very easily, and any that does get absorbed will have trouble ionizing. If you remove the water, I think the absorbed hydrogen chloride will evaporate.





View user's profile View All Posts By User
Sulaiman
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 3251
Registered: 8-2-2015
Location: UK ... on extended Holiday in Malaysia
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 11-5-2017 at 23:16


The hotter the H2SO4 the more rapidly the HCl will evaporate,
if you boil the H2SO4 , HCl then H2O will boil off
purifying then concentrating the H2SO4.

CAUTION: Clouds of corrosive, choking acid vapours will be generated
and if you concentrate the H2SO4 to near azeotropic it is quite scary due to the >330 oC stress on the glassware
and the potenial reaction of boiling concentrated sulphuric acid with eyes/skin etc.




CAUTION : Hobby Chemist, not Professional or even Amateur
View user's profile View All Posts By User
ave369
Eastern European Lady of Mad Science
*****




Posts: 568
Registered: 8-7-2015
Location: Another goddamn town in Russia
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 13-5-2017 at 10:19


In one of my experiments I was distilling HCl off such a mixture (~90% H2SO4 + HCl gas). I've got an interesting result: not all of HCl exited as gas, some exited as azeotropic hydrochloric acid that condensed in the condenser, and the sulfuric acid became more concentrated. I didn't measure the temperature but I think it distilled off at a lower temp than water usually boils off ~90% H2SO4. Is such a thing possible?



Smells like ammonia....
View user's profile View All Posts By User
elementcollector1
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 2684
Registered: 28-12-2011
Location: The Known Universe
Member Is Offline

Mood: Molten

[*] posted on 13-5-2017 at 10:37


Azeotropic hydrochloric acid, if I remember correctly, has a boiling point of 109 degrees Celsius. So, it's definitely possible. I would imagine that in your setup, both the water and HCl gas were boiled off and subsequently recombined once the local temperature was cooled to 109 degrees (e.g. in the condenser, as opposed to the boiling flask), while some water was presumably lost as vapor.



Elements Collected:52/87
Latest Acquired: Cl
Next in Line: Nd
View user's profile View All Posts By User

  Go To Top