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[*] posted on 21-9-2017 at 16:26
People freaking out about chemicals on Amazon


https://www.channel4.com/news/potentially-deadly-bomb-ingred...

A good rebuttal:
http://idlewords.com/2017/09/anatomy_of_a_moral_panic.htm





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[*] posted on 22-9-2017 at 04:39


In Britain many years ago there was uproar as a result of a report about children watching violent and inappropriate videos. Newspaper headlines and questions in parliament. Parliament sprung in to action and very quickly passed very strict censorship laws about videotape content.

However one academic was curious as to how children were obtaining such material as he had been trying to obtain that type of material for his research and had difficulty.

When he investigated he found that when children were asked if they had watched such material they tended to lie and say yes even making up details about the content.

Stock up on your magnesium ribbon now LOL

So the government passed emergency legislation based on the wishful thinking of children and public panic!!!
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[*] posted on 6-10-2017 at 17:42


That first post made me angry



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[*] posted on 7-10-2017 at 07:32


Nightmare. Amazon has come in handy for bits n pieces but looks like that's another source about to run dry..

Ffs!

The thing which pisses me off most about this is that its innocent buyers like us who lose out.

I've yet to see an example of a terrorist capable of building a half decent device in the country since the IRA disbanded.

The fuckers blow more of there own up than anything else.

All the precursors for nitric acid production are easily available all over the net. And as we all know nitric acid is the key precursor to a multitude of effective high explosives.

When did anyone ever hear of a terrorist or group using any of these materials???

Its invariably AP/MEKP or some kind of incendiary device.

I don't think most terrorists even have the knowledge or patience to produce a decent quality black powder.

Nevermind anything else.

Its typical British knee jerk reaction to a complete non issue IMO.
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[*] posted on 7-10-2017 at 10:05


My local hardware shop stopped stocking sulphuric acid about 9 months ago,
eBay UK rarely has it nowadays,
and my favourite source, Hexeal via Amazon, has also dried up.
There is one seller from Spain on eBay UK ... expensive p&p
and there are a couple of 91% sulphuric acid drain cleaner listings on Amazon uk.

As a simple choice between convenience for my hobby, and general public safety,
I have to agree with the withdrawal of sulphuric acid from the domestic market,
I just wish it wasn't a necessary choice.


On the brighter side,
I anticipated this problem a few months ago,
so I now have 2x 4.5 l glass demijohns of drain cleaner 96% grade (transferred from 1l hdpe shipping bottles)
in addition to c1 litre of 'reagent grade'
hopefully, literally in my case, a lifetime supply.

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UkAmateur ... we are lucky that terrorists are noobs,
I am amazed, and relieved, by their incompetence.
I suspect that there is a maximum IQ limit for potential 'radicalisation' recruits :P

[Edited on 7-10-2017 by Sulaiman]




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[*] posted on 11-10-2017 at 15:06


Quote: Originally posted by Sulaiman  
My local hardware shop stopped stocking sulphuric acid about 9 months ago,
eBay UK rarely has it nowadays,
and my favourite source, Hexeal via Amazon, has also dried up.
There is one seller from Spain on eBay UK ... expensive p&p
and there are a couple of 91% sulphuric acid drain cleaner listings on Amazon uk.

As a simple choice between convenience for my hobby, and general public safety,
I have to agree with the withdrawal of sulphuric acid from the domestic market,
I just wish it wasn't a necessary choice.


On the brighter side,
I anticipated this problem a few months ago,
so I now have 2x 4.5 l glass demijohns of drain cleaner 96% grade (transferred from 1l hdpe shipping bottles)
in addition to c1 litre of 'reagent grade'
hopefully, literally in my case, a lifetime supply.

______________________________________
UkAmateur ... we are lucky that terrorists are noobs,
I am amazed, and relieved, by their incompetence.
I suspect that there is a maximum IQ limit for potential 'radicalisation' recruits :P

[Edited on 7-10-2017 by Sulaiman]


But from next year you risk prison if caught with that amount, you will be a criminal in the eyes of the law, no ifs or but's. As for the license, I asked one my science teachers to try and get one. He runs an after school science club (biology based), he was turned down and you dont get the fee back.

edit for clarity, he was applying for nitric acid license, but sulphuric acid is being put under the same scheme, look on the freedom of info (what do they know), somewhere on there is a request for the number of licenses issued so far, as far as i could tell 0.

But the £40 odd quid or whatever it is you pay, you dont get back when you apply

[Edited on 11-10-2017 by NEMO-Chemistry]
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