Not logged in [Login - Register]
 Sciencemadness Discussion Board » Fundamentals » Reagents and Apparatus Acquisition » Boron- Skylighter Select A Forum Fundamentals   » Chemistry in General   » Organic Chemistry   » Reagents and Apparatus Acquisition   » Beginnings   » Miscellaneous   » The Wiki Special topics   » Technochemistry   » Energetic Materials   » Biochemistry   » Radiochemistry   » Computational Models and Techniques   » Prepublication   » References Non-chemistry   » Forum Matters   » Legal and Societal Issues   » Whimsy   » Detritus   » The Moderators' Lounge

Pages:  1
Author: Subject: Boron- Skylighter
Bert

Posts: 2148
Registered: 12-3-2004
Location: Blasted Hellish frozen Northern wastelands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Negative, I am a meat Popsicle.

Boron- Skylighter

Skylights is going out of business. They are closing some stuff out at 75% off...

5 oz. of Boron for $35.81 US. (Technical grade? Doesn't say. It certainly burns, though).  Quote: CLOSEOUT #8 Hey, Boron Powder Closeout: 5 oz. Bottles Retail Price$238.75 Closeout Price $35.81 You Save$202.94! -325 mesh Boron Powder primarily used as a high temperature ignition composition in electric matches, primes, first fires and delay elements, in place of thermite, in rockets, and in green pyrotechnic flares. Shimizu reports a 75:25 mix of boron and potassium nitrate burns a brilliant green with a very high temperature. Very scarce and expensive pyro chemical. There are a few things left at Skylighter in really small quantities... Basically, quantities too small to list on the website. To grab these odds and ends at 80% off or more, watch for emails from me at 8:00am and 8:00pm Eastern time every day for the next several weeks. READ THIS OR WEEP! Fine Print for Closeout Sales: VERY deep discounts (usually 80% or better).   First come, first served, until each item is sold out.   You must phone your order in to a live human bean, between 11:00am and 11:30am Eastern time Monday thru Friday at 540-338-3877. Sorry, no online or email ordering of Closeouts. No phone messages--you gots to speak to one of our frighteningly friendly, still barely alive, skeleton-staff, who will gleefully part you from the microscopic amount of money being asked for. When you call, tell us which Closeout number you are ordering (in the subject of the email. Look for Closeout 1, Closeout 13, etc.) Okey dokey? So watch yer emails closely. I guarantee these will all be gone by 11:05am every day (except weekends). Yours in flames, Harry Gilliam Chief Cook & Bottlewasher

Boom.
The explosion removed the windows, the door and most of the chimney.
It was the sort of thing you expected in the Street of alchemists. The neighbors preferred explosions, which were at least identifiable and soon over. They were better than the smells, which crept up on you.
-Terry Pratchett, "Moving Pictures"

It is essential that persons having explosive
substances under their charge should never
lose sight of the conviction that, preventive
measures should always be prescribed
on the hypothesis of an explosion.

Marcellin Berthelot - 1892 Explosives and their power - Page 47
SWIM
Hazard to Others

Posts: 183
Registered: 3-9-2017
Member Is Offline

Boron?
Bert likes the fifth element?

I should have guessed that from your mood.
Dr.Bob
International Hazard

Posts: 1731
Registered: 26-1-2011
Location: USA - NC
Member Is Offline

Sad to heat that they are closing, I know Harry was trying to sell the business, but likely no takers. It takes a strong risk taker, given the CPSC's history and more. Great chance to get some boron and likely more.
MrHomeScientist
International Hazard

Posts: 1415
Registered: 24-10-2010
Location: Flerovium
Member Is Offline

Sheesh I had no idea boron was that expensive. Maybe my video on making it from boric acid is a secret cash cow?
Bert

Posts: 2148
Registered: 12-3-2004
Location: Blasted Hellish frozen Northern wastelands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Negative, I am a meat Popsicle.

I actually have a POUND of amorphous B, a supplier I queried about availability asked how much I could use as a sample, and just SENT IT OUT!

I don't think it's quite as valuable as Harry hoped, the amateur US pyro market apparently agreed.

I will miss Skylighter, it is the end of an era. Now we are down to Firefox and whatever Aaron C. Enzer is calling his distribution company these days for amateurs, plus the various eBay fly by night sellers.

And of course, the one and only US commercial distributor who will only sell to actual manufacturing fireworks businesses, and that only by the full drum/pallet/shipping container/box car load: Service Chemical

[Edited on 10-11-2017 by Bert]

Boom.
The explosion removed the windows, the door and most of the chimney.
It was the sort of thing you expected in the Street of alchemists. The neighbors preferred explosions, which were at least identifiable and soon over. They were better than the smells, which crept up on you.
-Terry Pratchett, "Moving Pictures"

It is essential that persons having explosive
substances under their charge should never
lose sight of the conviction that, preventive
measures should always be prescribed
on the hypothesis of an explosion.

Marcellin Berthelot - 1892 Explosives and their power - Page 47
violet sin
International Hazard

Posts: 1157
Registered: 2-9-2012
Location: , Location, Location
Member Is Offline

About wept this morning... Been checking the skylighter emails and saw closeout #44.. 1gal methylene chloride for 14$... 7 available, Set an alarm with phone number and closeout #... On my 3 + hr commute stopped and called, got through first try, dump all the info... And... It's pickup only ;( ;( ;( sad sad way to start off the morning. Sauce Bert Super Administrator Posts: 2148 Registered: 12-3-2004 Location: Blasted Hellish frozen Northern wastelands Member Is Offline Mood: Negative, I am a meat Popsicle. Well, they are sweeping the floor over at Skylighter, and Harry has put his personal stash of pyro chemicals up for sale in various lots, any lot is$60.00 + shipping.

He has some odd things. Stuff I do not immediately know of a pyro use for.

Titanium diboride, Tantalum carbide, Tungsten pentaboride. What?!?

Plus various old timey things like orpiment, Paris green, Gallic acid, gum copal. Lots more modernish ones, many types of Ti, Mg/Al, different grades of Al powders.

Anyhow, list is here:

http://blog.skylighter.com/pyro/chemical-closeouts/

[Edited on 10-11-2017 by Bert]

Boom.
The explosion removed the windows, the door and most of the chimney.
It was the sort of thing you expected in the Street of alchemists. The neighbors preferred explosions, which were at least identifiable and soon over. They were better than the smells, which crept up on you.
-Terry Pratchett, "Moving Pictures"

It is essential that persons having explosive
substances under their charge should never
lose sight of the conviction that, preventive
measures should always be prescribed
on the hypothesis of an explosion.

Marcellin Berthelot - 1892 Explosives and their power - Page 47
Dr.Bob
International Hazard

Posts: 1731
Registered: 26-1-2011
Location: USA - NC
Member Is Offline

Many of the boron reagents are used for making greens without barium. Not sure if all are, but that would be my guess. Tantalum carbide seems like it would burn easily, perhaps just with friction, might be like zirconium compounds. But some odd stuff.
violet sin
International Hazard

Posts: 1157
Registered: 2-9-2012
Location: , Location, Location
Member Is Offline

Oh hell ya! Thank you for the heads up, looks like I have a phone call to make in the morning. Will update later if anything good comes of it.

**************

Sadness, as all the ones I wanted were gone already. Couldn't call right away cause car problems on way to work. 30 min late = 5 left. #128 had 5# silicon... ;( really hoping for it but all's well that leaves me with more $I guess. [Edited on 10-11-2017 by violet sin] Sauce Funkerman23 National Hazard Posts: 386 Registered: 4-1-2012 Location: Dixie Member Is Offline  Quote: Originally posted by Dr.Bob Sad to heat that they are closing, I know Harry was trying to sell the business, but likely no takers. It takes a strong risk taker, given the CPSC's history and more. Great chance to get some boron and likely more. Do you or anyone know what happened to their book sales? I hope someone else has taken that mantle but they where THE source for good texts. " the Modern Chemist is inundated with literature"-Unknown Bert Super Administrator Posts: 2148 Registered: 12-3-2004 Location: Blasted Hellish frozen Northern wastelands Member Is Offline Mood: Negative, I am a meat Popsicle. Oddly enough, this morning he put all his books up for sale. List is here: http://blog.skylighter.com/pyro/book-closeouts/ I just looked through it. And except for the "Tom Perigren" authored and a few of the Kosanke items, I already have EVRYTHING?! --------- And a bunch more chemicals. Lots of Silicon, someone wanted that, It's available again. http://blog.skylighter.com/pyro/chemical-closeouts/ Odd things like solid camphor, lead chromate. Plus tons of Mg, Ti, Al [Edited on 17-11-2017 by Bert] Boom. The explosion removed the windows, the door and most of the chimney. It was the sort of thing you expected in the Street of alchemists. The neighbors preferred explosions, which were at least identifiable and soon over. They were better than the smells, which crept up on you. -Terry Pratchett, "Moving Pictures" It is essential that persons having explosive substances under their charge should never lose sight of the conviction that, preventive measures should always be prescribed on the hypothesis of an explosion. Marcellin Berthelot - 1892 Explosives and their power - Page 47 Texium (zts16) Super Moderator Posts: 2575 Registered: 11-1-2014 Location: San Marcos, TX Member Is Offline Mood: Polyphenolic Hmm, trying to call about a couple of the closeout lots but it isn't going through. Come check out the Official Sciencemadness Wiki Have a particular topic you're really interested in currently? Why not make a page for it? The wiki can always benefit from more contributors. My (now defunct) YouTube Channel: Texium My blog: Texium Bert Super Administrator Posts: 2148 Registered: 12-3-2004 Location: Blasted Hellish frozen Northern wastelands Member Is Offline Mood: Negative, I am a meat Popsicle. Yeah, I gave up a while ago. Whatever they are doing on their end doesn't work for me. Boom. The explosion removed the windows, the door and most of the chimney. It was the sort of thing you expected in the Street of alchemists. The neighbors preferred explosions, which were at least identifiable and soon over. They were better than the smells, which crept up on you. -Terry Pratchett, "Moving Pictures" It is essential that persons having explosive substances under their charge should never lose sight of the conviction that, preventive measures should always be prescribed on the hypothesis of an explosion. Marcellin Berthelot - 1892 Explosives and their power - Page 47 Texium (zts16) Super Moderator Posts: 2575 Registered: 11-1-2014 Location: San Marcos, TX Member Is Offline Mood: Polyphenolic The ones I want are probably already gone anyway... they looked too good to be true. I'll still try again later though. Edit: Yep, call finally got through but the two lots I was interested were gone. Probably for the best from a budget perspective... [Edited on 11-17-2017 by zts16] Come check out the Official Sciencemadness Wiki Have a particular topic you're really interested in currently? Why not make a page for it? The wiki can always benefit from more contributors. My (now defunct) YouTube Channel: Texium My blog: Texium violet sin International Hazard Posts: 1157 Registered: 2-9-2012 Location: , Location, Location Member Is Offline I got through each time, everything I wanted long gone though. Last check around 10am Pacific time only two lots of books left, 210$ guy and another one that was a stack of papers/articles not really books. Everything I wanted gone = sad, but not poorer me. Lol

Sauce
Bert

Posts: 2148
Registered: 12-3-2004
Location: Blasted Hellish frozen Northern wastelands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Negative, I am a meat Popsicle.

Well, FRAK.

Harry just offered up seventy 55 gallon drums of Mg, about 4,000 lb. weight for FIVE HUNDRED USA \$s. That's probably less than scrap metal value.

You would have to go and pick it up, but still.

Boom.
The explosion removed the windows, the door and most of the chimney.
It was the sort of thing you expected in the Street of alchemists. The neighbors preferred explosions, which were at least identifiable and soon over. They were better than the smells, which crept up on you.
-Terry Pratchett, "Moving Pictures"

It is essential that persons having explosive
substances under their charge should never
lose sight of the conviction that, preventive
measures should always be prescribed
on the hypothesis of an explosion.

Marcellin Berthelot - 1892 Explosives and their power - Page 47
violet sin
International Hazard

Posts: 1157
Registered: 2-9-2012
Location: , Location, Location
Member Is Offline

I'll pony up if you get a driver Bert. That's a lot of Mg, and it's pretty far from California.

Sauce
Dr.Bob
International Hazard

Posts: 1731
Registered: 26-1-2011
Location: USA - NC
Member Is Offline

That would run a lot of Grignards... If I knew where to store it, I would be tempted...
Bert

Posts: 2148
Registered: 12-3-2004
Location: Blasted Hellish frozen Northern wastelands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Negative, I am a meat Popsicle.

I didn't get it, someone an hour away from where it is stored in Virginia beat me to it. I was still out getting freight quotes.

But I got referred to the source of the material. We shall see-

Boom.
The explosion removed the windows, the door and most of the chimney.
It was the sort of thing you expected in the Street of alchemists. The neighbors preferred explosions, which were at least identifiable and soon over. They were better than the smells, which crept up on you.
-Terry Pratchett, "Moving Pictures"

It is essential that persons having explosive
substances under their charge should never
lose sight of the conviction that, preventive
measures should always be prescribed
on the hypothesis of an explosion.

Marcellin Berthelot - 1892 Explosives and their power - Page 47
Loptr
International Hazard

Posts: 954
Registered: 20-5-2014
Location: USA
Member Is Offline

Mood: Grateful

They still have magnesium up for sale on their website. I went ahead and bought 5lbs of it, add that to the pound I already have, and that still makes a lot of Grignard reagent. Not as much as 4,000 lbs, but a lifetime supply for me.

"Question everything generally thought to be obvious." - Dieter Rams
Bert

Posts: 2148
Registered: 12-3-2004
Location: Blasted Hellish frozen Northern wastelands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Negative, I am a meat Popsicle.

The Skylighter Mg chip material is from the trimmed off risers and machining scrap from a Mg casting plant. Is it pure Mg? I don't yet know. Do you care about small ammounts of allowing materials in a Grignard?

Boom.
The explosion removed the windows, the door and most of the chimney.
It was the sort of thing you expected in the Street of alchemists. The neighbors preferred explosions, which were at least identifiable and soon over. They were better than the smells, which crept up on you.
-Terry Pratchett, "Moving Pictures"

It is essential that persons having explosive
substances under their charge should never
lose sight of the conviction that, preventive
measures should always be prescribed
on the hypothesis of an explosion.

Marcellin Berthelot - 1892 Explosives and their power - Page 47
Loptr
International Hazard

Posts: 954
Registered: 20-5-2014
Location: USA
Member Is Offline

Mood: Grateful

The magnesium needs to be reasonably pure, but as Chem Player demonstrated in their ghetto Grignard video, it can be made to work.

"Question everything generally thought to be obvious." - Dieter Rams
Bert

Posts: 2148
Registered: 12-3-2004
Location: Blasted Hellish frozen Northern wastelands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Negative, I am a meat Popsicle.

Zombie Skylighter is back from the grave!

So this was in my email today:

Boom.
The explosion removed the windows, the door and most of the chimney.
It was the sort of thing you expected in the Street of alchemists. The neighbors preferred explosions, which were at least identifiable and soon over. They were better than the smells, which crept up on you.
-Terry Pratchett, "Moving Pictures"

It is essential that persons having explosive
substances under their charge should never
lose sight of the conviction that, preventive
measures should always be prescribed
on the hypothesis of an explosion.

Marcellin Berthelot - 1892 Explosives and their power - Page 47
Dr.Bob
International Hazard

Posts: 1731
Registered: 26-1-2011
Location: USA - NC
Member Is Offline

Bert,

Thanks for posting that, Skylighter is legendary in the fireworks world, and a great source of chemicals for hobbyists. If you were not familiar with Skylighter, now is a good time to check it out and help keep it alive.
RogueRose
International Hazard

Posts: 676
Registered: 16-6-2014
Member Is Offline

So does anyone know where they are going to be shipping out of? What state? I see there is a VA PO at the bottom of the posting, but IDK if that is the warehouse location or what.

Also, I was told that the brother/sister/cousin company in Idaho that sounds like a web browser was part of this company though I never had any confirmation. Is this true and does anyone know about the state of affairs for FF?
Pages:  1

 Sciencemadness Discussion Board » Fundamentals » Reagents and Apparatus Acquisition » Boron- Skylighter Select A Forum Fundamentals   » Chemistry in General   » Organic Chemistry   » Reagents and Apparatus Acquisition   » Beginnings   » Miscellaneous   » The Wiki Special topics   » Technochemistry   » Energetic Materials   » Biochemistry   » Radiochemistry   » Computational Models and Techniques   » Prepublication   » References Non-chemistry   » Forum Matters   » Legal and Societal Issues   » Whimsy   » Detritus   » The Moderators' Lounge