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drzdude
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LD5050 potentially scamming
User ld5050 has potentially scammed me out of 105$ after I goodwilled the money to him, my fault but just a heads up.
[Edited on 20-3-2018 by drzdude]
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JJay
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Sorry to hear about that. He always seemed like a cool dude. I didn't want anything he was selling, but I'm a little surprised he would scam anyone.
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drzdude
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Quote: Originally posted by JJay  | | Sorry to hear about that. He always seemed like a cool dude. I didn't want anything he was selling, but I'm a little surprised he would scam anyone.
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I’m really surprised as well. Communication was great, but kept delaying me with shipping which I didn’t mind because I know life happens, but I
paid his girlfriend because his PayPal wasn’t working, and he has ceased communication and she has blocked me on the account.
Very frustrated.
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XeonTheMGPony
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well are you being reasonable by factoring in shipping times n such?
I had to wait over a month on some of my orders from others.
Ok second post clarifies it!
Sorry to hear, I hope it gets fixed for you!
[Edited on 20-3-2018 by XeonTheMGPony]
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clearly_not_atara
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Shipping time is one thing, but I don't see why a tracking number couldn't be employed.
[Edited on 04-20-1969 by clearly_not_atara]
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drzdude
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He said he would provide one after he shipped it, saying it was all packaged up and ready to go but he was busy with work, that was a week after
paying, and still days ago.
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drzdude
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| Quote: Originally posted by XeonTheMGPony | well are you being reasonable by factoring in shipping times n such?
I had to wait over a month on some of my orders from others.
Ok second post clarifies it!
Sorry to hear, I hope it gets fixed for you!
[Edited on 20-3-2018 by XeonTheMGPony] |
Yeah it’s unfortunate! Two other orders with users have gone smooth and I guess I got too comfortable!
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drzdude
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Update: the girlfriend has deleted her account completely, not just blocking me.
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Texium
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This is unfortunate, but we will wait to hear his side of the story before jumping to any action such as an official denouncement or a ban.
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drzdude
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| Quote: Originally posted by Texium (zts16) | | This is unfortunate, but we will wait to hear his side of the story before jumping to any action such as an official denouncement or a ban.
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I will provide screenshots if you would like them, I’m not trying to start a witch hunt, but you can clearly see his inactivity as of recent.
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Texium
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He's been active on the forum as of 4 days ago but hasn't posted in about a month. That isn't unusual by any means. I will send a U2U to him, and if
he doesn't respond to it the next time he is active on the forum, I will call for administrative action.
Edit: And I'm not trying to discount your situation, but it seems very odd that someone who has completed legitimate transactions in the past and has
seemed genuinely interested in chemistry would suddenly decide to burn all bridges with the forum for the sake of stealing a small sum of $105
[Edited on 3-20-2018 by Texium (zts16)]
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drzdude
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Yes, four days ago he sent this:
“
Hey sorry for kind of leaving you in the dark my girlfriend who you sent the venmo to said she got a message from you. Anyway, things have been crazy
with the snow storm and I plow and do snow removal so I have been swamped but I have your stuff all packed up and ready to go I even put a little
something extra in there for you. I'm out doing snow removal now but on lunch break I'm going to go over to post office and send package out. Again
sorry for not getting back to you but package will be sent out today. I will send you tracking as soon as I get it.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Texium (zts16) | | He's been active on the forum as of 4 days ago but hasn't posted in about a month. That isn't unusual by any means. I will send a U2U to him, and if
he doesn't respond to it the next time he is active on the forum, I will call for administrative action. |
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drzdude
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@Edit: Yeah I am really hoping this is the case, but his girlfriend has deleted her account after I messaged her on there about her boyfriend's lack
of communication. Mind you the message I posted was over a week after payment, which was sent after he said he could ship the next day.
I just don't know what to do in this situation, so would rather it be public information, thanks.
| Quote: Originally posted by Texium (zts16) | He's been active on the forum as of 4 days ago but hasn't posted in about a month. That isn't unusual by any means. I will send a U2U to him, and if
he doesn't respond to it the next time he is active on the forum, I will call for administrative action.
Edit: And I'm not trying to discount your situation, but it seems very odd that someone who has completed legitimate transactions in the past and has
seemed genuinely interested in chemistry would suddenly decide to burn all bridges with the forum for the sake of stealing a small sum of $105
[Edited on 3-20-2018 by Texium (zts16)] |
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I wouldn't worry too much about his girlfriend. She doesn't know who we are, and having seen some media depictions of collections on grey-market
debts, she may be afraid that you will send several Italian men in suits to her door with a baseball bat. It's possible that LD5050 had not reassured
her effectively. Hopefully of course it will not come to that.
I think you did the right thing by making us aware of the situation, but hopefully he will still come through with the payment.
[Edited on 04-20-1969 by clearly_not_atara]
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drzdude
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Yes I don’t want to jump to assumptions, im reassured to see many people on here vouching for him, I just am a little uneased by the lack of
communication even after apologizing for it before.
| Quote: Originally posted by clearly_not_atara | I wouldn't worry too much about his girlfriend. She doesn't know who we are, and having seen some media depictions of collections on grey-market
debts, she may be afraid that you will send several Italian men in suits to her door with a baseball bat. It's possible that LD5050 had not reassured
her effectively. Hopefully of course it will not come to that.
I think you did the right thing by making us aware of the situation, but hopefully he will still come through with the payment.
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Hopefully he does come through. I probably would have waited a little longer before making a public post like this, because many times unexpected
things do come up, but then again it's not very polite to leave someone hanging for multiple days with no word.
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drzdude
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Yeah, I mean I payed 3/11 for 3/12 shipment, so all in all I think I have waited enough to at least bring the situation up.
| Quote: Originally posted by Sidmadra | | Hopefully he does come through. I probably would have waited a little longer before making a public post like this, because many times unexpected
things do come up, but then again it's not very polite to leave someone hanging for multiple days with no word. |
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If it came by 3/31, would still beat some orders out of China-
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I would still be patient for a week or so. After that, you can file a dispute at PayPal, at least, when you paid for goods or a service. Then you will
get back your money. If you made a private payment (from person to person, not for any business), then you lost your money.
Paypal has a kind of insurance for commercial payments, they in turn ask a fee for that (the recipient pays the fee, which is appr. 3.5% of the total
sum). Personal/private payments are free, as long as no currency-exchange is needed (e.g. from euros to dollars), but these also lack the insurance
thing.
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Pretty sure that China prioritises postage to the USA.
Usually takes 4 weeks for stuff to arrive here.
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If it is "free.shipping", 3 weeks is typical to USA in my experience. Some goes 4, you might get luck and have an order in under 2 weeks. It is said
that the Chinese government subsidizes the shipping costs to help Chinese businesses bring in foreign exchange.
Speed seems to somewhat depend on size/weight, I have had smaller items come quickly, apparently shipped as air cargo to USA then transferred on to
USPS. Other slow to arrive and heavy or bulky items probably went into a sea container, arrived at West coast, unloaded and then transferred to USPS.
If a Chinese seller DOES charge a somewhat higher, close to normal (for USA) shipping fee, the items seem to come faster, often via FedEx. Expensive,
small items like a packet of nano Al or higher end electronics tend to charge more for shipping and arrive faster.
I have not ordered chemicals from China, beyond small quantities of some specialty metal powders and synthetic diamond grits. The all too common
practice of declaring category 4 or even 6 chemicals as "T-shirts" or "copier toner" to get them shipped on in USA by USPS puts me off.
USPS will not knowingly handle ANY HazMat. Depending on the circumstances, submitting a HazMat item to USPS may be a felony, bringing federal charges.
If my local postman breaks open a package with a category 6 chemical addressed to my business and is hurt or contaminates the local post office, it
would be VERY expensive.
Attachment: Nine_Classes_of_Hazardous_Materials-4-2013_508CLN.pdf (618kB)
This file has been downloaded 972 times
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drzdude
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He made it a point to say his PayPal wasn’t working, so the payment was through Venmo, which means my money is long gone.
| Quote: Originally posted by woelen | I would still be patient for a week or so. After that, you can file a dispute at PayPal, at least, when you paid for goods or a service. Then you will
get back your money. If you made a private payment (from person to person, not for any business), then you lost your money.
Paypal has a kind of insurance for commercial payments, they in turn ask a fee for that (the recipient pays the fee, which is appr. 3.5% of the total
sum). Personal/private payments are free, as long as no currency-exchange is needed (e.g. from euros to dollars), but these also lack the insurance
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Last Login: 15-3-2018 at 11:23 AM
5 days since LD5050 was signed in here.
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drzdude
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I just got a response form venmo telling me that the account I paid was linked to scamming and known to have been scamming, and they have frozen the
funds from it and the associated accounts on it.
Unfortunately for me, there is no buyer protection so I am out the funds.
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Weird.
According to the profile info, LD5050 has 164 posts, joined here more than 1 year ago and is 29 years old.
It is hard to imagine that $100 is worth that much time and effort.
(devoting 30 minutes is stretching it a bit thin 
Ah well, put it down to experience - you never know what situation people are in.
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