LD5050
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Clearing my name (ld5050) please read...
A while back a member here privately tried purchasing a small amount of chems from me. To make a long story short the chems where never sent out by me
and the buyer naturally thought I had ripped him off. He then started a thread on here explaining what had happened and warned others to watch out for
me. After we had made the deal and he sent me payment we had kept in touch for a few days and I was a bit late on sending the package out but I was
keeping in contact with him.
Finally the day came where I had his order ready boxed up and ready to ship out. Unfortunately around this time my area was hit with a massive snow
storm and I had been out plowing for about 24 hours+. While I was out plowing I planned to drop the package at the post office when I had the chance.
Later on in the day before I got to the post office me and my son where involved in a very bad accident in the plow truck and I was severely hurt. I
ended up in the hospital and was in a coma and obviously had no contact with the buyer at this point.
I remained in the hospital for around a month and when I finally felt up to it I logged onto science madness to contact the buyer to let him know what
had happened. When I logged in i had many private messages from a few different members here asking me to explain myself and I was also restricted
from posting anything on science madness untill I explained what happened and made things right. There was also a large thread started on me by the
buyer stating that I had ripped him off and warned others to watch out.
To my surprise a lot of members here did not jump the gun and assume the worst from me which made me quite happy. I have been a member here for some
time now and try to contribute what I can when I can. A few members here noticed something like this (ripping people off) was out of character of me
and it made me feel good to see that. So thank you for those of you who suggested to the buyer not to jump the gun and assume I ripped him off it
meant a lot to me.
I know that this is a long explanation but I feel I have to explain myself and the explanation is far over due. I am now in contact with the
buyer/member here and I offered to ship him a smaller amount of the chem he originally wanted or I offered to send him some other more difficult to
get reagents in place of the original order. He decided to just have his money refunded and I have full intentions to do so. He has been very patient
with me and is a very understanding good person and I am thankful for that.
Thanks for taking the time to hear me out.
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j_sum1
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Thanks for reporting back. It is good to see that things have been resolved.
Just to let you know, your situation prompted a discussion among the mods. It is always awkward for the board and its administrators to be caught in
the middle of a dispute. I don't know that we fully finished the discussion but there was agreement on a few key things.
1. Open discussion on the board is not the place for airing and resolving disputes. Do that privately.
2. Similarly, the open forums are not the place for transaction details. Advertising and requests are ok. But private details of transactions are
exacy that: private.
If we have to shut a thread down because it crosses a line, it is not because we are picking sides. Rather it is because we don't want to pick sides.
I'm moving this to forum matters where it more properly belongs.
Glad to hear that you are on the mend after the accident.
J.
[edit] fat fingers on miniscule keyboard.
[Edited on 19-5-2018 by j_sum1]
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LearnedAmateur
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Hope you’re recovering well, I had no idea something of that magnitude happened but it’s good to have you back. I’d like to apologise for
suggesting to get the police involved and I’m thankful that idea got shot down, it’s just that some people believe that it’s a way to get free
money especially when money back guarantees aren’t in the equation.
In chemistry, sometimes the solution is the problem.
It’s been a while, but I’m not dead! Updated 7/1/2020. Shout out to Aga, we got along well.
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crystal grower
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It's really sad that honorable people with misfortune like this can be mistaken for frauds so easily and there's not much one can do about it.
Get well soon man.
[Edited on 19-5-2018 by crystal grower]
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Magpie
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I have learned many times it is usually a mistake to guess the curcumstances and motives of another person. We usually incorrectly imagine the worst.
The only correction I would make is to the quoted action. It would sound much better if you could say that the refund has already been made.
The single most important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem
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drzdude
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Was never refunded btw, excuse after excuse, I'm moving on.
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JJay
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Ouch. Sorry to hear about that. There are some reputable sellers on here, and I've never been ripped off, but I protect myself with Paypal buyer
protection and use Visa/Mastercard/etc. Also, I buy 90% of my chemicals on eBay. What were you trying to buy? Maybe someone here can help you out....
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Loptr
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Sounds like you have had it rough! I hope you are doing better.
What was it that you trying to get, @drzdude?
"Question everything generally thought to be obvious." - Dieter Rams
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drzdude
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I was going to try a synthesis of oxazoline starting by a condensation between formaldehyde and nitroethane, and was trying to source some of the
latter.
After this all happened, I just scrapped the idea because I don't have much disposable income I can really dedicate for the lab. Will probably look
for another reaction I can use the formaldehyde for.
No big deal really, just wanted to update this thread because I never even knew he made one.
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JJay
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Oh, nitroethane? Hmm.. I think it's legal to buy in the U.S., but sales are heavily monitored by the DEA, so it's a little hard to purchase. IIRC if
you're handling less than 2.5 kg of nitroethane you don't have to worry about keeping years worth of logs/reporting to the DEA/etc., but chemical
suppliers in the U.S. do have to worry about it, and they can get in big trouble if they sell to the wrong person.
You can probably buy it from overseas as long as you don't ever possess more than 2.5 kg of nitroethane at a time (right?), but if you do, the DEA,
the DHS, the Coast Guard, and the postal inspectors will be notified when it goes through customs, and the FBI will put photographs of the customs
declaration and perhaps the inside of the package into your permanent file. So as long as you don't mind having several Federal agencies knowing about
it, there are a couple of suppliers that will sell it to you.
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drzdude
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Haha, I appreciate all of the thought that went into your post, but it’s not really something that is worth all of the hassle!
Thanks for the suggestion though!
Quote: Originally posted by JJay  | Oh, nitroethane? Hmm.. I think it's legal to buy in the U.S., but sales are heavily monitored by the DEA, so it's a little hard to purchase. IIRC if
you're handling less than 2.5 kg of nitroethane you don't have to worry about keeping years worth of logs/reporting to the DEA/etc., but chemical
suppliers in the U.S. do have to worry about it, and they can get in big trouble if they sell to the wrong person.
You can probably buy it from overseas as long as you don't ever possess more than 2.5 kg of nitroethane at a time (right?), but if you do, the DEA,
the DHS, the Coast Guard, and the postal inspectors will be notified when it goes through customs, and the FBI will put photographs of the customs
declaration and perhaps the inside of the package into your permanent file. So as long as you don't mind having several Federal agencies knowing about
it, there are a couple of suppliers that will sell it to you.
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