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[*] posted on 17-6-2018 at 08:41
Explosives without nitrates and carbon other than hydrazinium azide hydrazinate


Are there explosives other than hydrazinium azide hydrazinate which have been successfully synthesized that do not contain
carbon and that do not require nitrates in their synthesis?
EDIT: that is explosives containing only nitrogen, hydrogen and non-nitro group oxygen

[Edited on 17-6-2018 by John paul III]
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[*] posted on 17-6-2018 at 08:51


Are halogens or heavy metals allowed in your parameters?

Do you require a single compound, or are mixtures/coprecipitates/clathrates & etc. acceptable.

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[*] posted on 17-6-2018 at 08:58


Single compounds, mixtures, clathrates etc. are all acceptable
Sorry, I had to edit the post - explosives have to contain only nitrogen, hydrogen and non nitro group oxygen

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[*] posted on 17-6-2018 at 09:28


My favourite: NI3
Lots of gas mixtures: 2H2 + O2 = 2H2O etc.
H2O2 and almost anything :)
Depends what you call 'explosive'




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[*] posted on 17-6-2018 at 09:59


Fuck, true
Another condition: it's not a gas at normal conditions:D
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[*] posted on 17-6-2018 at 10:59


Parameters:

It can be made to "explode". (Want to more closely define that? Low explosives qualify? Detonating high explosives only?)

May be a single compound, or a mixture of compounds/elements.

Only Nitrogen, Oxygen and Hydrogen are constituents, none of the Oxygen is present as part of a "nitro group" (NO2) or as a "nitrate" (NO3)

No bags of explosive gas mixtures.

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By my analysis of what you seem to be asking, would you also care to specify any of the below parameters?

Solid or liquid substances or mixtures at temperature and pressure survivable and workable by people. Possible that it be used and handled as typical industrial or military explosives are now.

Hence:

No explosives requiring cryogenics to be kept as solid/liquid (such as liquid Oxygen/absorbent fuel blasting mixtures).

No explosives requiring a charge be at a higher temperature than handlers can work in to be functional.

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[*] posted on 17-6-2018 at 11:41


Pentazolate salts would give few more maybe, hydrazine pentazolate (N2H5)+ (N5)- was claimed to be synthesized by someone I know (unpublished data, likely to be hydrazine pentazolate hydrate or hydrazinate). If so, hydroxylammonium pentazolate likely exists, maybe in zwitterionic forms such as (NH3OH)2 (N5)2 (NH3OH)+ (NH2O)-

also, hydroxylammonium azide exists.

Triazene azide also exist, however, the compound is borderline stable.

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[*] posted on 17-6-2018 at 12:33


Hydrazoic acid, ammonium azide, hydroxylammonium azide.
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