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[*] posted on 10-9-2007 at 11:12
Chloranil


I know the standard way of making chloranil is by mixing NaClO3/HCl with phenol. But I do readily have access to chlorates, I wonder if it is possilble to use TCCA or NaDCCA? I don't see how it wouldn't work but I just want to make sure.
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[*] posted on 2-4-2017 at 07:01


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Now for something completely sensible.

Preparing chloranil by treating phenol with HCl and sodium chlorate is not a good way to generate chloranil because the initial product is 2,4,6-trichlorophenol which is then difficult to convert to chloranil, although there is a procedure described by Lübbecke and Boldt (1) for a similar route using hydrochloric acid and hydrogen peroxide with a large amount of magnesium chloride as a catalyst. I have found that it is better to start with a para-substituted benzene derivative such as quinol, para-phenylenediamine, p-aminophenol or paracetamol which hydrolyses to the former compound. That said the original poster was about the nature of the oxidising agent.

I did not try the original posters idea with TCCA or NaDCCA because the large amount of isocyanuric acid formed would be difficult to remove from the chloranil except possibly by leaching in a soxhlet extractor with acetone. If TCCA or the sodium salt are all that you have available as the chlorinating agent then it is probably better to generate the chlorine externally. There is a published procedure for the use of this method for the preparation of o-chloranil from catechol via this route although the final oxidation of tetrachlorocatechol to o-chloranil is done externally (2).

A search of the SM forums reveals many references to the preparation of chloranil, some personal others in journals or patents but very little in the way of actual personal detailed accounts of its preparation have ever been posted. I hope to remedy this over the coming weeks as I intend to post not only the preparation but the purification of the product which is usually highly impure. I have made many batches of chloranil over the years and recently I required rather a lot of it to study some of its products. Historically, I used paracetamol in hydrochloric acid with sodium nitrate as the oxidizing agent but this is the preparation from hell, monstrous toxic foam belching chlorine, nitrogen oxides, chloropicrin and the rest for a final yield of only 35-40%. Looking for a cleaner method I decided to try oxidizing quinol (hydroquinone) in hydrochloric acid with various oxidizing agent, I tried sodium chlorate, sodium chlorite and hydrogen peroxide. The first two worked well though the occasional micro explosions in the vapour above the reaction mixture when using sodium chlorite are a little unnerving but my attempts with 30% hydrogen peroxide failed.

The failure of the hydrogen peroxide method came as a surprise given the number of patents (3, 4 & 5) that describe various modification to this method. Has anyone on this forum ever tried the hydrogen peroxide method on any substrate? In the paper by Lübbecke and Boldt (1) that describes this method they us magnesium chloride as a catalyst. However, in the Lübbecke procedure 270ml of concentrate (presumably 36%) hydrochloric acid are used for just 1.7g of phenol; admittedly the yield is claimed to be 99%.

I would be interested to hear about other people’s experiences preparing this material. I intend to produce a section in the “Pre-publication forum” eventually.


(1) Lübbecke, H. and Boldt, P.; Tetrahedron 1978; v34; pp1577 to 1579
(2) US patent 4196132
(3) DE 2645114
(4) EP 0326456
(5) US 5334735
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[*] posted on 7-4-2017 at 10:47


How about using the reaction between hot, concentrated NaOH or KOH and chlorine gas bubbled through to produce chlorates? been a long time (years) since that road was travelled personally but seem to remember that if cold, hypochlorites are the result of this, whilst chlorates are the result, along with presumably some chloride.
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[*] posted on 21-12-2017 at 15:30


@Boffis

Did you come to an optimized procedure for producing chloranil from hydroquinone/p-aminophenol? Would be interesting to hear! :)

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[*] posted on 28-12-2017 at 14:31


@nitro-genes; I wouldn't say "optimised". I found, as mentioned in the Lübbecke and Boldt paper, you basically need a very large excess of concentrated hydrochloric acid over the phenolic compound and oxidizer or you get a lot of partial chlorinated products, di and trichlorobenzoquinones and sometimes chlorinated hydroquinone derivatives mainly. Hydroquinone is definitely "cleaner" in that much less red alcohol soluble "tar" is produced.

The important thing is the purification because most of the intermediate stages can be recycled into the next batch. I have found that with paracetamol I get a high apparent yield of deep orange product after the initial cold water washing and drying (the product gives off a very acrid vapour while drying, possibly occluded chloropicrin). The crude product is then mixed with an equal weight of isopropanol and left to stand for a short while at room temperature and the then sucked dry on a buchner funnel and washed with a little more isopropanol. This gets rid of most of the red tarry material and much of the acrid material. The leachate can be "neutralised" with caustic soda solution before disposal.

The product is now usually cadmium yellow and can be further purified with small volumes of hot isopropanol and/or acetone to give a lemon yellow pearly powder that consist of chloranil and some trichlorobenzoquinone. The later can be leached out with boil water according to a patent or the whole can be recrystallised from acetone but it requires a lot of solvent. I usually use it as at this stage since most of the products I make are easily purified. The materials leached from the product in these later stages can be recycled into subsequent batches. Without recycling a 35% yield of crude chloroanil is pretty reasonable starting with paracetamol.

With hydroquinone I got much less red tar but the overal yield is about the same. Recycling the lower chloroquinones and hydroquinones greatly improves the overal yield.

Interestingly I eventually purchased some commercial chloranil but have found it to be much less reactive, particularly towards sodium nitrite in the nitrite substitution route to nitranilic acid.
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[*] posted on 28-12-2017 at 15:10


Thanks for the info, especially the purification steps are helpful! Been wondering if it would matter if oxidation to benzoquinone or chlorination would be favourable during the initial stages of the reaction, as most with most available syntheses both seem to occur simultaneously. Can benzoquinone actually be chlorinated all the way to chloranil? Do the extra chlorine groups attached prevent side reactions, like complete destruction of the ring e.g? Would it be beneficial to tetra-chlorinate first and form the quinone last?

Attachment: Chlorination of N-acyl Derivatives of p-Aminophenols (Naphthols) and p-Phenylenediamines.pdf (69kB)
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[*] posted on 29-12-2017 at 11:38


@nitrogenes, there are plenty of references to the reductive chlorination of benzoquinone with hydrochloric acid to chlorohydroquinone so I have always assumed that the process simply progresses via repeating this process and oxidation alternately. I have noticed that with insufficient oxidising agent the product is a colourless crystalline material that I have taken be be various polychlorohydroquinones. A paper was once posted on this website, I think by Nicodem, from a Korean or Chinese publication (in English) that looked at the isomer make up of some intermediate chlorination products.

As the chlorination progresses I think it becomes harder to add further chlorines and that this is why the massive excess of hydrochloric acid may be required, simply to maintain a high concentration of HCl in the latter parts of the synthesis when some of the HCl has been consumed. If this is the cases it may be better to carry out the reaction in stages. One problem though that I have noticed is the very low solubility of the tri and tetrachlorobenzoquinones in the aqueous reaction mixture which may result in a "protective layer" effect reducing the efficiency of the chlorination/oxidation in the later parts of the synthesis. This may be another reason for the very large volume of hydrochloric acid relative to reactant in the paper by Lübbecke and Boldt. The paper you attached is very interesting indeed since it uses a non-aqueous solvent in which the products are probably much more soluble.

I am sure you could use benzoquinone and HCl to start with and then revert to an oxidising agent+hydrochloric acid system.

Incidently in the early days I used sodium nitrate and conc. hydrochloric acid, this required a large amount of hydrochloric acid to keep the salt in solution, it gave better results but the foam from hell and the lethal fumes were a problem.
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[*] posted on 6-2-2024 at 12:03


Has anyone on this board ever tried to produce sodium chloranilate or sodium nitranilate? I prepared these compounds long ago but recently repeated these experiments as part of my ongoing investigation of chloranil chemistry. Both were prepared by reacting chloranil with sodium hydroxide and sodium nitrite respectively.

When I compared my new sodium chloranilate, prepared from carefully purified chloranil, I noticed that the older crystals were lustrous black and resemble K permanganate while the new material is a glassy deep maroon red. After some experimentation I discovered that it is best to precipitate free chloranilic cid and recrystallise it from methanol. The first crop of crystals are brilliant scarlet red needles that contain methanol of crystallisation that is rapidly lost on drying even at 50 C. When the methanol evaporates the crystals crumble to a terracotta red coloured powder but I noticed that within this powder are a few blocky deep red lustrous crystals that do not crumble. By evaporating the filtrate down, further crops of chloranilic acid are obtained but the amount of the mysterious glassy red crystals increases each time. By many careful recrystallisations I have obtained the two compounds fairly pure. The terracotta coloured dust dissolves in NaOH solution to give deep red sodium chloranilate crystals on cooling while the red crystals dissolve to give lustrous purplish black crystals on cooling that resemble potassium permanganate. Chromatography reveals that even the sodium chloranilate prepared from rerystallised chloranil and commercial 98% chloranil gives a fair amount of the second compound.

Work on the recrystallisation of sodium nitranilate proved even more complex. An examination of the first crop of recrystallised material under the microscope revealed the presence of 3 substances plus amorphous resin. The sodium nitranilate forms "spear head" shaped rounded tablets or bipyamids, the second compound forms brighter orange "boat shaped" tablets or short prisms and the final compound a deep red prisms. I have now, through many recrystallisations separated out pure deep orange sodium nitranilate and the deep red prisms. But the second compound, the "boat shaped" tablets, I cannot separate from about an equal amount of sodium nitranilate. By precipitating the silver salt of the red prisms, drying it and then decomposing a known weight suspended in water with hot dilute KI and filtering off the AgI and weighing it I found that the compound has almost exactly the same silver content as silver nitranilate and is equally explosive (the sodium salt of the red compound is noticeably less enegertic than sodium nitranilate).

My conclusion is that the red crystals from sodium nitranilate are an isomeric compound and of the 2 possibilities I think that the sodium salt of 2,6-dihydroxy-3,5-dinitrobenzoquinone is more like than the 2,3-dihydroxy-5,6-dinitrobenzoquinone as vicinal dinitro quinones tend to hydrolyse readily to hydroxy-nitro benzoquinone; hence the reason that nitranilic acid forms in the first place rather than tetranitrobenzoquinone.

This raises the possibility that the red crystals extracted from crude chloranilic acid are also an isomer of it, perhaps 2,6-dihydroxy-3,5-dichlorobenzoquinone.

I can't find any information on the possible isomers of either nitranilic acid or chloranilic acid. What do fellow MS member think? Any suggestion on how I cound investigate these compounds? And does any one have access to reaxys or similar and would be kind enough to run a search for the isomeric compounds? The image below shows the three possible nitranilic acid isomers.

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[*] posted on 7-2-2024 at 04:57


I've made sodium nitranilate from chloranil that I prepared by the procedure from Axt, see http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=9424#p... and http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=9424#p...
The reaction that Axt gives (and was found word for word in a later paper without citing Axt) for sodium nitranilate worked well for me.

I also tried the reaction in acetone as stated in https://www.doi.org/10.5562/cca3333 but that reaction just produced a dark brown tarry precipitate I wasn't able to work up further.

Pictures of the crystals I obtained, left sodium nitranilate and right lead nitranilate:
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The tetrachloro-p-benzoquinone I made probably isn't completely pure. I did a TLC in petrol ether/ethyl acetate 3/2 on silica 60 F254 plates:
chloranil_tlc_plate.jpg - 343kB

There seen to be at least two other compounds in there...

Purification of the tetrachloro-p-benzoquinone seems like a headache, and seems to involve a lot of steps. See the entry in Beilstein https://archive.org/details/BeilsteinsHandbuchDerOrganischen... and https://archive.org/details/BeilsteinsHandbuchDerOrganischen....

As for chloranilic acid I have no experience with it, but Beilstein gives no isomers apart from 2,5-dichloro-3,6-dihydroxy-1,4-benzoquinone. Beilstein mentiones that two hydrates of the sodium salt exist, the trihydrate (crystallizes above 35 °C) as black crystals and the tetrahydrate (below 18 °C) as deep red needles. Maybe that explains the difference in crystals you observed? https://archive.org/details/BeilsteinsHandbuchDerOrganischen...




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[*] posted on 8-2-2024 at 23:45


@ Diachrynic. Thank you for your response. I must admit I don't often think to go to Beilstein but the information on the different hydrates of sodium chloranilate is very interesting and could certainly account for the different products and possibly also for the free chloranilic acid recrystallised from methanol. Perhaps the first formed crystals when the solution is still warm do not take on methanol of crystallisation. I am not at home at the moment but when I am I should be able to test theses ideas.

As for the sodium nitranilate, I prepare it by a method essentially identical to that of Axt but my crystals are not like those you illustrate above, which look like red prisms. Mine are bright orange bipyramidal crystals or flattened elongate "spearhead" shaped tablets after several recrystallisation from hot saturated solution. It is possible once again that I am getting different hydrates and that the technique I use where the hot saturated starts to crystallise while still very hot results in a persistent mixture of hydrates in an almost constant ratio. I will have a look into this too when time permits. The red needles that I recovered at the end of crystallisation, however, are quite distinct. They dissolve in hot water to give a red solution as against the yellow orange colour of sodium nitranilate and they are significantly more soluble. I will investigate this substance again in due course. By the way, sodium nitranilate prepared from crude homemade chloranil is almost always rather brownish sometime even brownish red due to the presence of a tarry compound. This can't be removed by simple recrystallisation and required charcoal+kieselguhr treatment while the solution is hot.

The issue of purifying crude chloranil is problematic but I found a couple of interesting paper on the preparation of chloranil, its reactions and those of trichlorobenzoquinone, the main impurity. I have found from experience that the larger the excess of hydrochloric during the preparation the greater the proportion of chloranil in the final product. Graebe in his paper reports the presence of about equal amounts of trichloro and tetrachlorobenzoquinone in the crude "chloranil" but then goes on to describe how to separate them. I have attached a translation of the Graebe paper as others might be interested too particularly in some of the more unusual derivatives.

Incidentally, the easiest route to pure chloranil free from lower chlorinated compounds and tar is from the old wood preservative sodium pentachlorophenol, while now banned in Europe it still crops up occasionally on Ebay etc. This compound is easily purified from the crude commercial product and then oxidised with 40-50% nitric acid. The stronger the acid the higher the yield but even fuming nitric acid only gives 35% were as 40% acid give 25% yield, the poor yield is compensated for by the simplicity of the procedure and the cheapness of the starting material. The by-products are things like oxalic acid and an orange tar that is soluble in isopropanol so easily removed. If the free pentachlorophenol is first treated as a solution in a chlorinated solvent with chlorine so called hexa and heptachlorophenol are formed (actually cyclohexadione derivatives) and these give almost quantitative yields of chloranil when treated with nitric acid.

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