Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: phenylacetaldehye to phenylacetic acid
weaver
Harmless
*




Posts: 1
Registered: 5-12-2007
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 5-12-2007 at 18:57
phenylacetaldehye to phenylacetic acid


Have been attempting to perform this reaction using hydrogen peroxide without much success. Only info I've found so far was for ring substituted phenylacetaldehydes using 1.7 molar excess of H2O2 in an acetic acid/water solvent which was unsuccessful. Does anyone have any info/experience relating specifically to this reaction as it would be very helpful to me.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
chemrox
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 2961
Registered: 18-1-2007
Location: UTM
Member Is Offline

Mood: LaGrangian

[*] posted on 5-12-2007 at 22:13


How about oxidation with MnO4 or Cr2O7?



"When you let the dumbasses vote you end up with populism followed by autocracy and getting back is a bitch." Plato (sort of)
View user's profile View All Posts By User
The_Davster
A pnictogen
*******




Posts: 2861
Registered: 18-11-2003
Member Is Offline

Mood: .

[*] posted on 5-12-2007 at 22:29


Would not permanganate cleave the C-C bond resulting in benzoic acid?

Many oxidation reactions are available in a brochure from Acros...
It is absolutely an awesome summary.
http://www.acros.com/_Rainbow/pdf/oxidation_brochure_MANGA.p...

Dichromate is likely more suitable here than permanganate for your desired reaction.

[Edited on 5-12-2007 by The_Davster]
View user's profile View All Posts By User
chemrox
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 2961
Registered: 18-1-2007
Location: UTM
Member Is Offline

Mood: LaGrangian

[*] posted on 5-12-2007 at 23:14


I think the D_ is right. Awsome site _D, thanks.



"When you let the dumbasses vote you end up with populism followed by autocracy and getting back is a bitch." Plato (sort of)
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Nicodem
Super Moderator
*******




Posts: 4230
Registered: 28-12-2004
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 7-12-2007 at 10:28


For oxidations of phenylacetaldehyde to phenylacetic acid see Tetrahedron 54 (1998) 401-410 and Synthesis (1993) 295-297.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
solo
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 3967
Registered: 9-12-2002
Location: Estados Unidos de La Republica Mexicana
Member Is Offline

Mood: ....getting old and drowning in a sea of knowledge

[*] posted on 7-12-2007 at 11:23


Reference Information

Oxidation of aldehydes with Oxone® in aqueous acetone
Kevin S. Webb and Stephen J. Ruszkay
Tetrahedron Volume 54, Issues 3-4, 15 January 1998, Pages 401-410




[Edited on 7-12-2007 by solo]

Attachment: Oxidation of aldehydes with Oxone® in aqueous acetone.pdf (629kB)
This file has been downloaded 2029 times





It's better to die on your feet, than live on your knees....Emiliano Zapata.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
solo
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 3967
Registered: 9-12-2002
Location: Estados Unidos de La Republica Mexicana
Member Is Offline

Mood: ....getting old and drowning in a sea of knowledge

[*] posted on 7-12-2007 at 16:37


Reference Information


The Oxidation of Aromatic Aldehydes to Carboxylic Acids Using Hydrogen Peroxide in Formic Acid
Robert H. Dodd*, Mireille Le Hyaric
Synthesis 1993: 295-297

Attachment: The Oxidation of Aromatic Aldehydes to Carboxylic Acids Using Hydrogen Peroxide in Formic Acid.pdf (227kB)
This file has been downloaded 4252 times





It's better to die on your feet, than live on your knees....Emiliano Zapata.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Mush
National Hazard
****




Posts: 632
Registered: 27-12-2008
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 18-7-2009 at 03:07


Hi Everyone! I am looking for an article: J. Chem. Soc., Trans. (1921) 119, 1775
"phenylacetaldehyde can be made by decarboxylating the bromohydrin gotten in 90%+ yield by treating cinnamic acid with bromine water"
Could anyone help me with this? Thanks!
View user's profile View All Posts By User
ammonium isocyanate
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 124
Registered: 13-7-2009
Location: USA - Midwest
Member Is Offline

Mood: sick :(

[*] posted on 18-7-2009 at 05:52


This thread is about the oxidation of phenylacetaldehyde, not it's production. Questions about its production belong in a seperate thread.

If you are looking for a reference and can't find it on google scholar, try requesting access from a moderator to the references section of the forum (given that this is your first post, I'm not sure they will grant it).
View user's profile View All Posts By User
solo
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 3967
Registered: 9-12-2002
Location: Estados Unidos de La Republica Mexicana
Member Is Offline

Mood: ....getting old and drowning in a sea of knowledge

[*] posted on 18-7-2009 at 06:54


...this is not a place to request articles.......but ou may not have access to the Reference section hence i will post you request here......solo


Studies of halogenohydrins and related derivatives in the cinnamic acid series. Part I
John Read and Alberta Catherine Pritchard Andrews
J. Chem. Soc., Trans. 1921, 119, 1774 - 1786,

Attachment: Studies of halogenohydrins and related derivatives in the cinnamic acid series. Part I.pdf (999kB)
This file has been downloaded 1450 times





It's better to die on your feet, than live on your knees....Emiliano Zapata.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Vogelzang
Banned





Posts: 662
Registered: 26-4-2008
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 18-7-2009 at 08:09



SYNTHESIS OF PHENYLACETIC ACID BY OXIDATION OF PHENYL ACETALDEHYDE WITH MOLECULAR OXYGEN
PRITZKOW W. ; VOERCKEL V. ; WEBER H. ;
Journal für praktische Chemie, Chemiker-Zeitung ISSN 0941-1216
1993, vol. 335, no8, pp. 705-707 [3 page(s) (article)]
Publisher Wiley, Leipzig, ALLEMAGNE (1992-1998) (Revue)

View user's profile View All Posts By User
Globey
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 183
Registered: 9-2-2009
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 18-7-2009 at 09:00


Pretty sure that if you oxidize phenylalanine (to phenylacetaldehyde) via aq -OCL2 route, the acid gets formed just through ambient oxidation of the aldehyde (that is, if it doesn't 1st polymerize). Wouldn't it be nice to magically add an alpha methyl to a common amino acid, and then proceed with the hypochlorite degradation/oxidation?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Vogelzang
Banned





Posts: 662
Registered: 26-4-2008
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 18-7-2009 at 11:52


US 3919305 Process for the preparation of phenylacetic acid
Phenylacetic acid is obtained by oxidation of phenylacetaldehyde with air or
oxygen in the presence of a transition metal derivative e.g. a derivative of Co,
Mn, Cr, Cu, Fe.

http://www.pat2pdf.org
http://ep.espacenet.com/numberSearch

View user's profile View All Posts By User
Mush
National Hazard
****




Posts: 632
Registered: 27-12-2008
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 26-7-2009 at 11:59


Thank you Solo!:D
View user's profile View All Posts By User

  Go To Top