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Why some languages write compounds' names with anions first?
Say CO2:
Chinese:
二(di)氧(oxygen)化(-ide)碳(carbon)
Japanese:
二(di)酸(oxygen)化(-ide)炭素(carbon)
What's the pros & cons of putting anions or cations first?
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i think that it mostly depends on the grammar of that language, for example in italian adjectives are put after the subject in a sentence, blue car
-> macchina blu (car blue). so if we think of anions as adjectives (genitive case) of cations, there you go
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In French as well- le chlorure de sodium, etc. There's no pros or cons either way- it just has to be consistent within a language.
Please remember: "Filtrate" is not a verb.
Write up your lab reports the way your instructor wants them, not the way your ex-instructor wants them.
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Quote: Originally posted by DraconicAcid  | | In French as well- le chlorure de sodium, etc. There's no pros or cons either way- it just has to be consistent within a language.
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Of course, English has both "sodium bicarbonate" and "bicarbonate of soda."
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But sodium bicarbonate is the
standard/IUPAC form and I'm considering about the standard forms in various languages.
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Yes, in really old texts, you'll find a lot of the reversed sort..."yellow prussiate of soda" comes to mind.
Please remember: "Filtrate" is not a verb.
Write up your lab reports the way your instructor wants them, not the way your ex-instructor wants them.
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| Quote: Originally posted by fusso | | But sodium bicarbonate is the
standard/IUPAC form and I'm considering about the standard forms in various languages. |
Sodium bicarbonate is an accepted name but the IUPAC preferred name is sodium hydrogen carbonate.
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Word order is a surprisingly deep topic in linguistics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_order
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But both anions & cations are nouns right? I can't see how
one being adjective of another.
[Edited on 07/10/18 by fusso]
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| Quote: Originally posted by fusso |
But both anions & cations are nouns right? I can't see how one being adjective of another.
[Edited on 07/10/18 by fusso] |
English has quite a bit of flexibility when it comes to what words may function as adjectives. Think of phrases such as "dog leash" or "corn flour".
Both are instances of a noun being directly used as an adjective to modify the following word(s). "Leash dog" is also valid, as would "flour corn",
but they don't mean the same thing as the previous word orders do.
"Flour of corn" does indeed mean pretty much the same thing of as "corn flour", as does "leash of dog" (though the latter sounds quite unnatural and
could be interpreted as a leash MADE from a dog).
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One can make an argument that if there was a problem with communications, from say, a solar flare, one may want to know primarily whether one had
created a nitrate or nitrite or azide or cyanide before knowing it was a sodium or potassium or ammonium compound.
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I remember decades ago finding a very old chemistry book (1900).
Many formulas were written "in reverse"
NO3H instead of HNO3 for example.
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