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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 06:22


Anyone foolish enough to order from sciencelab after reading such clearcut thievery, deserves whatever happens.



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[*] posted on 4-2-2010 at 14:14


Yes, do not order from them. I actually got a refund after calling about 5 times, but they only refunded half! I called again and they acted like it was some mistake and said they would refund the other half. If it doesn't come through in the next day or two I'll keep calling.

If you bother them enough, you'll get something back.

I just can't believe they've been in business this long. Its a good thing I only did a test order, but that was still pretty expensive due to their already high prices. The one girl acted like she was new, even though I've seen her name on this board before.
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[*] posted on 4-2-2010 at 16:38


How can you tell when they are lying?

Their lips str moving.




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[*] posted on 21-2-2010 at 15:57


Hi

I was robbed by sciencelab.com and I'm going all over the internet to give them bad reviews.

They did their usual schtick; half the order (the most expensive half) was back ordered for 4 months - too late to reverse credit card charges). I told them to cancel the most expensive items, and send the two cheaper ones.

They never refunded me the $175.00 overcharged. I have a bottle of the world's most expensive, vintage (it's so old, it's amber instead of clear) propylene glycol. I basically paid $378/L for the product.

They don't answer the phone; they don't return messages; they don't reply to emails.

I have complained to the BBB, the attorney general and AC3.
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[*] posted on 22-2-2010 at 14:17


You may want to leave a bad review here:
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/sciencelab.com/

It will leave a bad mark for them, in the GOOGLE RESULT PAGES for all people that use the free siteadvisor service.

It's probably THE MOST DAMNING bad mark for a website in terms of lost business.
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[*] posted on 22-2-2010 at 16:48


I need to read more closely. Was going to say the BBB, but you did already.

[Edited on 2-23-10 by UnintentionalChaos]




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[*] posted on 23-2-2010 at 08:30


The BBB has no teeth, sciencelab.com is an online business.

If the subset of people that use SiteAdvisor in their google searches see a red X next to the sciencelab.com listing, they are unlikely to visit the site to begin with, and a popup window will warn them away.

It would be very useful if people that have been victims of sciencelab.com fraud (and I understand there may be a handful visiting this forum) wrote a review with SiteAdvisor.

It's the one review that web users may receive passively BEFORE surfing the the sciencelab.com website.

[Edited on 23-2-2010 by helleborine]
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[*] posted on 11-3-2010 at 10:18


Persistence pays off!

I have contacted the Houston community papers with the story, they are INTERESTED in running a story after checking out the BBB complaints, and I will be giving them a phone interview tomorrow morning about their dishonest dealings.

Any advice on what I should stress?



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[*] posted on 11-3-2010 at 11:59


You might want to focus on the fact that they've ripped off universities as well as many hobbyists.
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[*] posted on 11-3-2010 at 19:20


Where can I find the information about them ripping off universities?
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[*] posted on 11-3-2010 at 20:03


This horrible website is mentioned several times on Wikipedia for MSDS links.

Perhaps someone could start a discussion there to have them all removed.




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[*] posted on 11-3-2010 at 20:15


Quote: Originally posted by mr.crow  
This horrible website is mentioned several times on Wikipedia for MSDS links.

Perhaps someone could start a discussion there to have them all removed.
Wikipedia is a wiki. You can edit it yourself.
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[*] posted on 11-3-2010 at 20:53


I'm too lazy for that. Someone else there might feel like changing 100 links



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[*] posted on 12-3-2010 at 07:56


There's only 121 such WIKI links. I will remove them all this morning.

They have 12 pending complaints at the Attorney General's office.

I snail-mailed a complaint to the IRS. I doubt they pay taxes, they live in a castle, like kings.

I'm feisty, aren't I.
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[*] posted on 12-3-2010 at 08:51


Stacey Tyler is listed under Directors for The Humble ISD Education Foundation. If I had been ripped off by Sciencelab, I'd simply find all the phone numbers of anyone who is at all associated with Rob or Stacey Tyler, and call each and every one of them. Email, telephone, facebook, family members, even write letters to their kids asking if mommy and daddy have my money.

http://www.humbleisdfoundation.org/About_Us/board.asp

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[*] posted on 12-3-2010 at 09:06


I've removed 40 wiki sciencelab.com entries. It's taking a while, because I'm replacing it with a link from non-criminal sources, but I hope to remove them all.

Anything else I could do?

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[*] posted on 12-3-2010 at 09:08


Thanks for the Board of Directors link. I have forwarded it to the journalist.
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[*] posted on 12-3-2010 at 10:56


Look at how sciencelab.com acquires chemicals, and where they come from:

http://www.tradeindia.com/buyoffer/2142914/Urea.html
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[*] posted on 12-3-2010 at 11:42


This is wikipedia for you... I've just been blocked because I'm spamming, supposedly, with links.

Even if the links are to MSDS from JT Baker, Fischer, etc.

"No good deed shall go unpunished"

They've undone all my edits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tim_Song

UPDATE:
They revoked the block, I'm continuing to obliterate their Wikipedia presence.

As I was doing this, something dawned on me. I was looking up MSDS, and sometimes, the chemical name on the wiki page was antiquated, and in disuse. Sciencelab.com seems to be the only source of MSDS for these antiquated terms. I had to dig up modern names in order to find the actual, more modern MSDS versions. I wonder if their MSDS are even accurate. How can they be the only ones with an MSDS for some chemicals??? I think they may be FAKING it.

I won't follow up on this suspicion as I'm afraid that it's beyond my competence.


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[*] posted on 12-3-2010 at 13:28


You could also look up Rob Tyler in the Houston white pages and call each number and ask for Stacey. Once you find out where they live you can really start having fun.
http://hellohouston.com/WP/white-pages.cfm
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[*] posted on 12-3-2010 at 14:28


Their home phone is 281.358.7677

They live HERE

Personal Facebook page

Business Facebook page

This is where the scavenged, degraded, barely identified chemicals and glassware are repackaged to maintain a semblance of legitimacy.

Thieving has made them very rich.

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In other news, they have no more links on the wiki.







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[*] posted on 12-3-2010 at 14:36


I may be a crazed, internet stalking Sciencelab victim, but one thing I won't do is call them at home - I am a law-abiding citizen. No. I have bigger, better plans for them that use legal channels.

I hope that the newspaper story this week will result in the attorney general's office to wake up from its slumber and place them under arrest. I also have a letter posted to the IRS, I doubt they're honest with the taxman. I simply told the IRS the truth, and that dishonest people like them might yield a rewarding audit.

I want them to be put behind bars, or at very least, be financially ruined for years to come. I might tolerate them living in a rented flat and wearing hand me downs.

Much more satisfying than insulting people on the phone.
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[*] posted on 12-3-2010 at 17:14


Nice touch of posting the links on their facebook page..
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[*] posted on 12-3-2010 at 19:26


Good thing you sorted out the wikipedia thing :)

As for posting the personal links, that's what happens when Internet Hate Machine gets going

I think the IRS is going to do it, you don't mess around with them.




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[*] posted on 13-3-2010 at 13:25


Well, I do notice they are near those giant power lines. Don't they mess with your brain? :)
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