Sciencemadness Discussion Board

MSDS bloopers?

12AX7 - 10-8-2008 at 14:19

Reading the MSDS on a lead-free solder product (claiming 0.25-1% Ag, 3-6% Cu), I noticed "incompatibility: chlorides, turpentine". Now chlorides I suppose I can understand, they'll mostly cause corrosion and such, not really a hazard, but turpentine? That's got to be a typo!

Tim

jokull - 11-8-2008 at 05:44

Hi.

Sometimes companies (specially small businesses) are lazy or avaricious so that they never take care of chemical tests necessary to fill the MSDS.

YT2095 - 11-8-2008 at 22:56

just a guess, but since quite a few solders have a resin core, is it possible that turpentine may act as a solvent or perhaps denature this resin making the solder useless?

12AX7 - 12-8-2008 at 10:45

Maybe, but that's internal, it would only act on the end a little way. And this solder is solid.

Tim

unionised - 12-8-2008 at 11:29

My guess is finely divided Cu or Ag acting as a catalyst for the auto-oxidation of the turpentine.

bfesser - 12-8-2008 at 11:39

What's the other 93+% of the of the solder?

[Edited on 8/12/08 by bfesser]

12AX7 - 12-8-2008 at 14:28

Tin, of course. Incidentially, it works reasonably well as solder.

Tim

Mr. Wizard - 13-8-2008 at 09:30

Often MSDSs have to include quantities and situations not encountered in normal situations. Like what would happen if railroad cars of the materials were mixed and subjected to a fire or heat, for days or weeks. This doesn't explain what the reputed dangers are in the MSDS you mention. It is curious.
Who would think that a warehouse full of boxed latex gloves would ignite themselves, or a dockside pile of steel lathe turnings would heat up and auto-ignite?

Perhaps some incident with the solder in bulk, along with chlorides, water and, turpentine, generated some chlorine by electrolysis and caused an ignition?

Maybe we should experiment? :D