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2,4,6-trinitrotoluene

Ogannessionn - 31-12-2018 at 01:39

In doing catalytic reforming of 1,3,5-trinitro heptane, using V2O5/MoO3/Cr2O3 as catalyst at high temperature and pressure,can i get 2,4,6-trinitrotoluene...

CharlieA - 31-12-2018 at 16:39

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Ogannessionn - 1-1-2019 at 01:06

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Nobelium

fusso - 1-1-2019 at 03:14

Quote: Originally posted by Ogannessionn  
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Nobelium
We want a full link, not a single word.

[Edited on 190101 by fusso]

WGTR - 1-1-2019 at 06:47

This has to be some weird form of spam, or trolling. Carry on.

maximumrisk - 16-1-2019 at 16:47

Seems to be sometimes crazy,
:D

Missing Megas Sites to get Syntheses to some of the TNT-derivates !

(2-CH3, 2,4-CH3 and 2,4,6-CH3)

see: (see not !)
http://roguesci.org/megalomania

More than, some Errors seems to be in the Single Step Syntheses.

What should we do, discussing about theories, or about real working
Explosives.

It could be nice, someone would opening the Database to This !


:P

j_sum1 - 16-1-2019 at 17:21

Aaaaaand this one is going nowhere.

I will be generous and relegate it to Beginnings, but if discussion continues with no appreciable content it will end up in Detritus.

XeonTheMGPony - 16-1-2019 at 18:39

sounds like a fitting place for this to be.

Vomaturge - 16-1-2019 at 20:44

@maximumrisk, I've been wondering about roguesci too. I have seen it mentioned, and linked to (all broken links, of course) many times in old sciencemadness threads and not just for drugs/explosives/poisons. The Sciencemadness Wiki has a short article on it, decrying it as supposedly being mainly for the more dangerous/illegal applications of science. What I know about it now, is that the site owner had a compilation of chemistry data, and also a discussion forum, whose posts have been archived in two links from the wiki.

Do you know if those links have all the posts from before roguesci went down, or were only some of them archived?

Back on topic: organessionn what makes you think of this reaction? I don't know how 2,4,6 nitrotoluene is made, but I would assume it makes more sense to start with toluene or benzene and add groups to it then to add all the nitro groups and then try and make it into an aromatic ring without disturbing them.

Or, is this trolling/ignorance/joking at the lead tri-methane... "goes pop with a decent cap" level.

[Edited on 17-1-2019 by Vomaturge]

DraconicAcid - 17-1-2019 at 11:13

Quote: Originally posted by fusso  
Quote: Originally posted by Ogannessionn  
Quote: Originally posted by CharlieA  
Do you have any reference for this reaction?


Nobelium
We want a full link, not a single word.

How many words does it take to say "No"?

There's no way you can convert any substituted heptane into toluene under conditions that won't wreck the nitro groups. It's a fantasy from someone who is just learning chemistry.