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Help find information on these refractory metal nitrates

symboom - 9-11-2020 at 12:26

Do nitrates exist for these elements
If so I've been looking everywhere for it

Do these elements form nitrates

Niobium, Molybdenum
Tantalum tungsten Rhenium

Along with Osmium and Iridium

Also
Fluorine chlorine and iodine form nitrates
Is bromine able to form bromine nitrate




[Edited on 9-11-2020 by symboom]

chornedsnorkack - 11-11-2020 at 22:21

Found start of an article (could not get full text) for Nb and Ta nitrates:
https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/1964/jr/jr964...

wg48temp9 - 12-11-2020 at 00:26

Quote: Originally posted by chornedsnorkack  
Found start of an article (could not get full text) for Nb and Ta nitrates:
https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/1964/jr/jr964...


Here is a link to the whole article https://sci-hub.se/10.1039/jr9640002396

MidLifeChemist - 12-11-2020 at 08:19

"with excess of silver nitrate in dry methyl cyanide solution"

@Symboom - So there's your answer. Silver nitrate in a dry methyl cyanide solution is the answer to all of your problems lol. Good luck and wear goggles!

[Edited on 11/12/2020 by MidLifeChemist]

Bedlasky - 12-11-2020 at 09:10

Remy mentioned molybdenum oxysulfates, but about oxynitrates nothing.

chornedsnorkack - 12-11-2020 at 11:13

I did find about Mo and W (and Cr):
https://www.readcube.com/articles/10.1134%2Fs106377451003005...
Unstable and volatile but separated in 1950s. The key is exchange reaction between oxyhalides and dinitrogen pentoxide.
Rhenium:
https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/1967/j1/j1967...
Iridium:
https://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/DT/1972/DT972...

[Edited on 12-11-2020 by chornedsnorkack]

[Edited on 12-11-2020 by chornedsnorkack]

symboom - 13-11-2020 at 12:57

Thank you everyone for helping find the information it seems like I should be using sci hub along with library Genesis (thank you russian researchers). Trying to find info on Google doesn't get me far.