Dubious Australian chemical seller

Quote: Originally posted by Radiums Lab

He owns legit yt channel go check it out.

Quote: Originally posted by currawong

How does the EUD system actually work? I have seen some suppliers that require an EUD for all sorts of things, like concentrated H2SO4 or KNO3, but then you can get the same chemical from Mitre 10 as drain cleaner or from agricultural suppliers as hydroponics fertilizer or stump rotter and nobody asks for an EUD. Are the suppliers that focus on chemicals just trying to cover themselves legally by doing extra stuff that is not required or should the hardware store technically be making me sign an EUD for drain opener?

There is two kinds of declarations, i believe that the difference is one applies to individuals while the other applies to organizations. the individuals one is a declaration enforced by the oaths act (like with statutory declarations) or "drugs, poisons or controlled substances regulation", and carries a penalty if violated along the lines of $250K and/or 5-10 or 10-25 years in prison. It acts as a whitelist where you have to not only swear not to use it for making drugs, but also that you will only use it for the explicit purpose listed. the attached picture is from the EUD i signed when i bought my condenser.


Unfortunately, legally i cannot use this condenser now for any purpose other than "distilling liquids", if i were ever caught distilling solids, like dry ice, i would go to prison.
the declaration also includes that you cannot sell the item, when i received my condenser, it came with another document saying as much, and other information the EUD they emailed me failed to mention, though i suppose it goes without saying.


The other type of EUD applies to organizations and doesnt require any explicit descriptions of usage, i also havent seen it refference the oaths act, but violating it does carry some sort of penalty bonus, you only very specifically swear not to use the article in question for making illicit drugs, as well as that you wont re-sell the item, but i think that has a seperate EUD where you probably have to swear that youll make anyone you sell it to, sign an EUD as well, so theres probably 3:
EUD for individual end users
for commercial end users
for commercial suppliers

This may explain the discrepancy observed buying sulfuric acid from ligma, as opposed to the delicious syrup made by MOMAR found at mitre 10
Since its on the poisons schedule, it might be that high purity acid at least comes with the recommendation and they probably just cover their ass to be sure.


If however you acquire equipment or materials without signing anything, you get off scott-free, as the only law in place applies to the sales and distribution of materials and equipment. if a place is selling acetic anhydride, unless they made it themselves, which frankly, given this websites limited inventory might be the case, they would specifically be violating an EUD someone somewhere did sign, for which the penalties can include decades in prison regardless of if any laws actually prohibit their distribution.

Well don't really know what to make of this. Dubious is a bit harsh I will not lie.
@currawong thanks for the dox and sorry for being the bearer of bad news but unfortunately we are not part of any sting operations (maybe one day)

And @Radiums Lab hit me up, ill send you a free signed copy of my newest publication "Compendium Synthetica". I really appreciate the support.

[Edited on 10-11-2025 by Ozcanium]

Quote: Originally posted by bnull

Acetic anhydride is not listed on the site's products but only appears when you search for it.

Quote: Originally posted by Ozcanium

Well don't really know what to make of this. Dubious is a bit harsh I will not lie. @currawong thanks for the dox and sorry for being the bearer of bad news but unfortunately we are not part of any sting operations (maybe one day) And @Radiums Lab hit me up, ill send you a free signed copy of my newest publication "Compendium Synthetica". I really appreciate the support. [Edited on 10-11-2025 by Ozcanium]

Sorry about calling you out like that, it looked too good to be true initially. Good to hear you're not a police sting operation

I finally recived the book as promised from @Ozcanium, many thanks to him.
I am going to review his book with some pictures.

-In his book there are 31 synthesis experiments mostly organic and 3 inorganic.

-Most of the books available out there don't include analysis data but his book has FTIR analysis data with explanation of peaks.

-His book explains the mechanism clearly with pictures which is a good addition.

-Very few errors.

-He could have included alternative methods for the synthesis.

-A small picture of the apparatus setup would have helped a bit.

-There is a section where he explains the use of reagents in common synthesis and daily life.

I personally loved the inorganic synthesis like NaNO2 using metals like lead which are relatively easy to get.

The images are of the synthesis of Aspirin





















What do you guys think?

[Edited on 29-12-2025 by Radiums Lab]