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Remove ink from stamps

kicsiatom - 5-5-2011 at 11:36

Hi people!

I have a big problem...
I'd like to remove ink from stamps, but i dont know what is right chemical which can remove it.
I try to reacting many kinds substances for example
-sodium borohydride soluted in THF
-cc. hydrazine and diluted hydrazine
-king's water
-35% H2O2
-organic solvents (acetone, methanol, pentanol, ethanol, 2-propanol, ethyl-acetate, nitromethane, toluene, benzaldehyde, butoxy ethanol, THF, propane, xylol, dichloromethane, carbontetrachloride, chloroform, petrol)
-inorganic salt solution (citric acid, NaOH, Potassium ferrocyanide, Potassium ferricyanide, sodium pyrophospate, sodium dithionite, sodium hydrogen sulfite, potassium sulfite etc.)

But nothing cant remove ink...

Can someone help me, please?
or give advice?

Thank you!

bbartlog - 5-5-2011 at 12:33

So what's the ink, and what is it on? Frankly I find it very strange that you would have access to all of these chemicals, have tried them all, and yet somehow be ignorant of the fact that knowing what the ink is composed of is the key to answering your question.

kicsiatom - 5-5-2011 at 13:12

We know, the ink which saturated on sponge is odorless, dark coloured, on the paper is black.
The ink can dissolve in water, then it is black coloured, this solution can decolour bleach, peroxysulfuric acid and nascens hydrogen (produce Zn+NaOH or Zn+HCl!), the bleach and peroxysulfuric acid damage the paper and other paints, the nascens hydrogen cant remove ink from stamps...
The ink can dissolve in ethyl alcohol, then it is dark green coloured.
If this solution reacting with sodium, changes colour to pink, which subside after some days.
The ink cant dissolve in diethyl ether, dichloromethane, carbon tetrachloride, but can dissolve (very poor!) in acetone, then it is yellow and pale brown coloured...
If the alcohol solution reacting to hydrazine, the solution colour change to blue.
It is interesting, if the ink reacting concentrated base or acid ( H2SO4, NaOH) the ink colour change to pink!

But on the paper, much difficult reacting with something...

The WiZard is In - 5-5-2011 at 13:18

Quote: Originally posted by kicsiatom  
Hi people!

I have a big problem...
I'd like to remove ink from stamps, but i dont know what is right chemical which can remove it.

There maybe a faster way to life on the wrong side of the bars,
however, I can't think of it at the moment.

Post Office's world wide stay up all night creating inks that
cannot be removed. Not that it hasn't been attempted/done did
in the past.

Noted in passing - In 1891 the state of Massachusetts
required the use of a standard ink.

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gutter_ca - 5-5-2011 at 16:32

Wiz, reread the thread. He's talking about inkpad ink for rubber stamps.

Edited because my spacebar was on vacation..

[Edited on 5/6/2011 by gutter_ca]

Arthur Dent - 5-5-2011 at 16:57

I recall a friend who used benzene to remove the obliteration ink without affecting (too much) the stamp's printing, but that was for monochrome offset-printed old-style stamps. I don't know how the modern CMYK stamps would fare in that solvent.

Robert

The WiZard is In - 5-5-2011 at 18:09

Quote: Originally posted by gutter_ca  
Wiz, reread the thread. He's talking about inkpad ink for rubber stamps.

Edited because my spacebar was on vacation..

[Edited on 5/6/2011 by gutter_ca]


I have a big problem...
I'd like to remove ink from stamps,


Is open to interpolation. [I wanted to use interpretation,
however, my spell checker choked on my spelling and
suggested interpolation which sounds more impressive.]

food - 5-5-2011 at 18:19

I thought that they meant stamps

now that's been cleared up I know that they actually meant stamps

still don't know what's being discussed

kicsiatom - 5-5-2011 at 19:37

I thought: a small adhesive token stuck on a letter or package to indicate that that postal fees have been paid.

Anyways i thought what if i try to react with LiAlH4 soluted in diethyl ether?

Or what do i do to analyze the ink components?

gutter_ca - 6-5-2011 at 08:41

Ha! Guess it's both...

kicsiatom - 6-5-2011 at 11:52

What can i do that i know what is the ink's component?
Or what can damage/remove ink?

Have someone got a idea?