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HMTD with 40% H2O2

Berrilium - 12-6-2012 at 07:46

Will the excess oxygen interfere with yield or is it fine to use? Also, what about solubility, what ratio should i add them in?

dangerous amateur - 12-6-2012 at 09:16

No, it wont interfere. You can dilute it to save it though.

QHarryQ - 22-6-2012 at 18:31

Well,you'd better dilute the 40% H2O2.It is demonstrated that synsthesize HMTD with concerntrated H2O2 is very dangerous ,the HMTD will get very sensitive to friction and impact,even more sensitive than TATP.The specific reason is somehow unknow,but I think there must be something to do with its structure.

Vikascoder - 22-6-2012 at 18:45

Quote: Originally posted by QHarryQ  
Well,you'd better dilute the 40% H2O2.It is demonstrated that synsthesize HMTD with concerntrated H2O2 is very dangerous ,the HMTD will get very sensitive to friction and impact,even more sensitive than TATP.The specific reason is somehow unknow,but I think there must be something to do with its structure.
there is nothing to do with structure in the case of HMTD . 40% H2O2 works very well there is no problem with it.

QHarryQ - 24-6-2012 at 02:54

Quote: Originally posted by Vikascoder  
Quote: Originally posted by QHarryQ  
Well,you'd better dilute the 40% H2O2.It is demonstrated that synsthesize HMTD with concerntrated H2O2 is very dangerous ,the HMTD will get very sensitive to friction and impact,even more sensitive than TATP.The specific reason is somehow unknow,but I think there must be something to do with its structure.
there is nothing to do with structure in the case of HMTD . 40% H2O2 works very well there is no problem with it.

Any statistics to support your opinion?

Vikascoder - 24-6-2012 at 04:09

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Any statistics to support your opinion?[/rquote] . Yes i have just read COPAE and there is already a thread on science madness 'forms of HMTD ' in this thread this was concluded that there are no form of HMTD its power depends on its crystal size and the crystal size depends upon temperature not the concentration of the materials you are using .

bbartlog - 24-6-2012 at 08:06

Quote: Originally posted by QHarryQ  

Any statistics to support your opinion?


Since you are the one who *started* making specific claims about the dangers (without any papers, links, or other supporting evidence), I believe the duty of substantiation falls first to you. It's true of course that one shouldn't just assume that different reagent strengths can be used in a synthesis (especially for high explosives) without risks or dangers, but you've gone further than that in your warning.