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Making solar panels from Chlorophyll without any pollution HELP

TheAMchemistry87 - 12-6-2012 at 18:17

I have been thinking for a long time about making them but i need some ideas. Well first i want to start small by using microscope slides. I also need to find out what type of clorophyll is the best to get the most energy from photosynthesis. I heard that silver is a very good conductor of electricity so ill be needing that. In Inorganic labs that are trying to make solar panels they use platinum metal as a catalyst but that is to expensive for me. If i make a solar panel do i need to add like fuses for it wont burn up. It doesnt need to be chlorophyll i just need some great ideas. So anyone please give me some suggestions \

-AMchemistry

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Migratory - 12-6-2012 at 19:35

I'm not so sure about using chlorophyll in a solar panel, but what do I know? I can tell you that you don't need any fuses, just keep them away from bright light if you want to prevent them from overheating. And you don't need silver, copper is a fine conductor.

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blogfast25 - 13-6-2012 at 04:18

This is not a 'homelab project'. Just creating the conditions in which chlorophyll can operate (essentially plant cell conditions) would be complicated. I recommend a PhD in Biochemistry, at a minimum.

fledarmus - 13-6-2012 at 04:53

Here is one method...

Converts water, carbon dioxide and sunlight into energy (assuming you have a good fireplace)

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Endimion17 - 13-6-2012 at 11:27

"Making solar panels from Chlorophyll without any pollution"

Yeah... that doesn't work.

Rich_Insane - 13-6-2012 at 13:19

I've been doing a lot of work lately with various biologically produced pigments that react to light. Many organisms produce polyphenolic or quinonic compounds to protect from ultraviolet radiation. One such application is the use of anthocyanin dyes from blackberry in dye-sensitized cells. An organic chemist I worked with for a while was using porphyrin-like compounds (chlorophyll itself has a porphyrin "head" with a magnesium ion right in the center).

These cells work by absorbing photons, which excite electrons within the dye (mostly by the phenolic groups, I think). An electrolyte (generally a triiodide electrolyte made from iodine, potassium iodide and ethylene glycol) acts as both a buffer and an electron donor while titanium dioxide "nanoparticles" (it sounds fancy, but TiO2 is actually very cheap, even the 20 nm particles commonly used in these procedures) acts as an electron acceptor.

Most of the work my colleagues and I did was to play around with a bunch of different pigments. It's actually fascinating how many naturally produced pigments work on this sort of cell.

Here is a good explanation: Dye-Sensitized Solar Cells

Some literature:

Solid-state dye-sensitized mesoporous TiO2 solar cells with high photon-to-electron conversion efficiencies

Low-cost, high efficiency solar cell based on dye-sensitized colloidal TiO2

Dye-Sensitized Cells

There may also be kits out there to build these cells, but making them from scratch can be quite interesting.

This is just my theory, but I think that the reason we can't just splotch chlorophyll onto a slide and generate power is because chlorophyll needs a very powerful electron acceptor. Graphite is a nice conductor, you can buy "graphite paint" in aerosol form. I forgot where exactly to get it, but there's this spray paint-like thing that disperses graphite onto surfaces as a thin film.