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oxidation of OH-

Magpie - 4-8-2012 at 15:08

I have just found something surprising that I never knew before, ie, iodine will apparently oxidise the hydroxyl ion in aqueous solution.

I had recently read somewhere that "...hydroxide was to be added until the brown color of iodine disappeared." Since this was a surprise to me I went right out to the lab and tried it. Sure enough that's what happens. Surmising that this must be a redox reaction I looked up the standard reduction potentials for the two half-reactions. This showed that there is about a 0.1v driving force for the following reaction:

2I2 + 4OH- ---> O2 + 2H2O + 4I-

Have I made the correct analysis? Does anyone else find this surprising?

kristofvagyok - 4-8-2012 at 15:22

Never ever heard from that, the normal strong base and iodine reaction what I have known is the following:

3 I2 + 6 MOH → MIO3 + 5 MI + 3 H2O
where M is sodium, potassium, ect.

This reaction works perfectly and currently I have no idea how could the iodine turn the OH group to give oxygen as you have mentioned.

Did the reaction fizzed when you have tried it? Looks interesting, could you post a video?(:

AJKOER - 4-8-2012 at 17:20

Quote: Originally posted by Magpie  

I had recently read somewhere that "...hydroxide was to be added until the brown color of iodine disappeared." Since this was a surprise to me I went right out to the lab and tried it. Sure enough that's what happens. Surmising that this must be a redox reaction I looked up the standard reduction potentials for the two half-reactions. This showed that there is about a 0.1v driving force for the following reaction:

2I2 + 4OH- ---> O2 + 2H2O + 4I-

Have I made the correct analysis? Does anyone else find this surprising?


My immediate opinion is not surprising, but not completely correct (unless the context is clear) as I would not normally expect the above to be the primary reaction products.

First, for example, Iodine and water (slow):

I2 + H2O <--> HOI + HI

Now, the major reaction depending on conditions (temperature, light, pH, impurities..) is usually the disproportionation reaction:

3 HOI --> HIO3 + 2 HI

and a secondary decomposition reaction:

2 HOI --> 2 HI + O2

which can be accelerated in the presence of organic material (like blood), light and certain metals (Ni, Cu,..), hence my comment relating to precise experimental conditions.

Normally, in the presence of NaOH for example, I would expect the products in declining concentrations to be NaI, NaIO3 and some O2.

Magpie - 4-8-2012 at 18:00

Quote: Originally posted by kristofvagyok  
Never ever heard from that, the normal strong base and iodine reaction what I have known is the following:

3 I2 + 6 MOH → MIO3 + 5 MI + 3 H2O
where M is sodium, potassium, ect.


I see that this is a disproportionation reaction. This is more consistent with my observations as I saw no bubbles of O2.

Thanks to you and AJKOER.

My experiment was not very quantitative. I placed a mL of 10% KI in a test tube then added a few mg of I2. This was way too much I2 so diluted an aliquot to get a mL of light brown solution. Then I added a few drops of very old 10% NaOH. This turned it clear very quickly. I repeated this looking closely for any bubble generation. I saw none.

Magpie - 5-8-2012 at 08:58

Quote: Originally posted by kristofvagyok  

3 I2 + 6 MOH → MIO3 + 5 MI + 3 H2O
where M is sodium, potassium, ect.


I was curious to compare the driving force for this reaction to the 0.13v I had calculated for the other reaction that evolved O2.

Using quite a few half reaction potentials from the table of standard potentials I came up with 1.49v. This definitely supports the disproportionation reaction as predominant.

Is this a correct analysis?