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golfpro - 6-6-2013 at 13:50

What if you took a golf club, put some ETN or other impact sensitive explosive (very small amount), in the middle of the face, got it to stick somehow, and actually hit a golf ball? The club whould have to be heavier and have a thicker face, do you think the ball would take off any faster than a normal shot?

hmmm

cyanureeves - 6-6-2013 at 13:54

the PGA would not go for that.:P

golfpro - 6-6-2013 at 14:11

ya but how awesome would that be to see a ball fly 1000 yards and make a loud pop upon contact, just imagine. I doubt the energy would be transfered to the golf ball properly though.

chemcam - 6-6-2013 at 14:47

You could make a miniature shape charge to direct the energy towards the ball. Only safe way to test would involve a robotic arm or similar, maybe use low tech arm utilizing springs.

Bot0nist - 6-6-2013 at 15:00

This is actualy very intresting. Have you researched the "explosive pendulum" a method of comparing explosives. I do think some form of special shaped charge would be needed to direct the vast majority of the explosive force where you want it. Brisince could be an issue though. perhaps a lower velocity EM? Not really sure. I would love to see some basic proofs of concept though.

Note: editing the title to something more efficable may garner more usefull replies and attract the right views. Vauge titles are an annoyance to some, as well.

[Edited on 6-6-2013 by Bot0nist]

Make some fully nitrated cellulose, render it to laquer with acetone, and add a small blob to the center of your driver head. A tiny amount though. Wear a face sheild and swing away. Proper NC is shock sensitive to an extent. The force may be sufficient. Are you pro enough to hit the sweet spot on the first try? ;)

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franklyn - 6-6-2013 at 15:15

You do realize that a club swing imparts many hundreds of times more energy
than ' a small amount ' of explosive. The golf ball will inelastically absorb much
of the explosion energy because of the speed it is released on detonation. It's
an easy experiment to place a ball over some quantity of ETN as you want and
explode it to see how high it will send the ball. It won't be impressive. The follow
through of the club transfers it's momentum to the ball at impact which for about
a thousand of a second compresses the ball quite flat on contact due to the inertia
of the ball. The ball then rebounds and moves away ahead of the club.

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hyfalcon - 6-6-2013 at 16:35

I can see shrapnel flying when the head comes apart from to large of a charge also.

Ral123 - 6-6-2013 at 21:47

Try C4. And don't forget the gloves :D

phlogiston - 7-6-2013 at 01:07

I think best-case it transfers a little momentum to the ball, but not necessarily in the intended ("forward") vector. So it will interfere with your aiming. Worst-case it destroys your club, the ball and causes some injuries.

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Fantasma4500 - 7-6-2013 at 04:38

i think you want something much less brisant than ETN for this purpose
but infact i have wondered about if a pellet gun with forceful enough airpressure on the back of a shot would actually be capable of setting off armstrongs mixture, yielding suddenly extremely high pressure and thos hopefully much much higher speeds (:
never tried it tho, worried about breaking the gun..

but for this you might want something alike flashpowder with some initiation of a sort..
perhaps a rounded head..

one way i suggest you to test this would be with ear protection letting a charge on a golf club drop straight into a solid rock, standing ontop of the rock, and not holding it very well
POTENTIALLY the energy could throw the club backwards with great energy, if a much lighter object were to try to stop the energy from the golf club and also the ''explosive'' it should most definately work only giving a slight push on the club

in short
less brisance should work.

Varmint - 11-6-2013 at 07:30

I think you would be rewarded with a face-full of golf ball jacket material accelerated not only by the gasses, but the stored energy of the compressed face of the ball itself.

DAS

gregxy - 11-6-2013 at 09:38

Sounds like Caddyshack or Myth Busters material.....

Maybe a golf club with a piston in the face and some air and combustible liquid or H2 behind the piston. The impact would
compress the air and ignite the liquid and possibly propel the ball further. (Although I doubt that you could fit enough air
to make any difference)

Any HE will shred the ball and damage the club.
Is it still a hole in one if the ball is in 1000 pieces and just one of the pieces goes in the hole?