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tert-Butyl alcohol group purchase

Blue Matter - 17-7-2013 at 10:10

I have found a source that can sell 4 liters of tert-butyl alcohol for pretty low price (correct me if I am wrong). The price for 4 liters is 100 dollars which ends up being only 25 dollars a liter plus shipping this is quite a bit lower price than I have seen most other places such as post apple scientific or eBay which are 33 dollars plus shipping and even as far as 15 dollars for 250 ml.

so the hole point of this thread is to see if there is anyone who would be interested in a group buy of the alcohol as I only need 500ml or so.

If my legitimacy is questioned I have several members who can vouch for me as a buyer and seller.

Thanks

chemcam - 17-7-2013 at 10:15

I may be interested in 500ml as well. It just depends how this all unfolds.

Mailinmypocket - 17-7-2013 at 10:19

This is a good idea actually, my source for t-BuOH is $29.99 for 500ml!

hyfalcon - 17-7-2013 at 10:51

Hey Blue Matter, I wouldn't mind a liter of that myself. I see you are going to do a local pu or are you gonna have it shipped?

I paid like $12.00 for a little over 100ml from a supplier off ebay. Since I don't know the source on that sample, this purchase from a local source makes me feel better about that one variable anyway.

[Edited on 17-7-2013 by hyfalcon]

Blue Matter - 17-7-2013 at 10:58

Quote: Originally posted by hyfalcon  
Hey Blue Matter, I wouldn't mind a liter of that myself. I see you are going to do a local pu or are you gonna have it shipped?

I paid like $12.00 for a little over 100ml from a supplier off ebay. Since I don't know the source on that sample, this purchase from a local source makes me feel better about that one variable anyway.

[Edited on 17-7-2013 by hyfalcon]


shipping for you would probably be much less than others because of our proximity to each other. I will be purchasing locally might get it shipped though because its only 5 dollars because we are so close and it would keep me from having to drive there.


for all others I believe it will be ups ground shipping normally is like 10-18 dollars

[Edited on 17-7-2013 by Blue Matter]

BobD1001 - 17-7-2013 at 12:01

I would be interested in buying 500ml

Hexavalent - 17-7-2013 at 13:28

Personally, I believe that we should be careful as to who we do group purchases with: I suspect that many people who get t-BuOH will use it to make potassium, which could well be a young, inexperienced person who could quite easily injure themselves with it.

[Edited on 17-7-2013 by Hexavalent]

hyfalcon - 17-7-2013 at 14:32

Well, looks like the same source has t-amyl also. Though it's a bit more pricey. Blue Matter, we need to avoid that hazmat fee by doing a will call. I'm up for the road trip myself. I need to get away from here for the day anyway once and a while.

Blue Matter - 17-7-2013 at 15:12

Quote: Originally posted by Hexavalent  
Personally, I believe that we should be careful as to who we do group purchases with: I suspect that many people who get t-BuOH will use it to make potassium, which could well be a young, inexperienced person who could quite easily injure themselves with it.

[Edited on 17-7-2013 by Hexavalent]


So far looks like the people posting are well enough qualified I think. I will monitor who wants it and make sure they will use it responsibly.

also a update the T butanol will not be available until next week as it is out of stock so if you want some keep that in mind it will be a few more days.

BobD1001 - 17-7-2013 at 19:23

I would actually prefer to purchase t-Amyl since I already have approximately 55mL of t-Butyl and would like to have a new tertiary alcohol.

Oscilllator - 17-7-2013 at 23:32

I would be interested in 500ml or so (yes, it is to make potassium) however there is a good chance that I will need to pay some kind of hazmat shipping. I live in Australia, and previously have had 1L of Methyl ethyl ketone turned away since its flammable (I was ordering from america).
Tert-butyl alcohol is classified as flammable 3, so there is a good chance this will be refused shipment aswell.

Fossil - 18-7-2013 at 09:04

I would be interested in purchasing 500mL, that is however if shipping to Canada is possible. Regardless, let me know.

Blue Matter - 18-7-2013 at 09:39

Highly doubt I would be able to ship out of the country without very high hazmat fees. probabley 30 or 40 dollars

chemcam - 18-7-2013 at 12:29

I just checked my local source and for me 5 gallons of ACS grade tert-butyl alcohol is $305.00 so if a whole bunch of people want it, blue matter, or if someone needs a lot I can help make it cheaper as well.

In general my source for stuff in large amounts is very cheap and either lab grade or ACS so if you need other hard to find things I can help. I can get some rare reagents in smaller quantity too. Contact via u2u. I won't sell stuff to just anyone so use judgement please. No P or I so don't ask.

Blue Matter - 18-7-2013 at 12:41

Thats about 16 dollars a liter but I really doubt we could find enough people to buy that much, not sure if we even have the 4 liters covered yet.

Update
1 liter me
1 liter hyfalcon
500ml chemcam

others either backed out or are out of the united states which is a no go unless they want to pay huge hazmat fees.

BobD1001 - 18-7-2013 at 12:52

Quote: Originally posted by Blue Matter  
Thats about 16 dollars a liter but I really doubt we could find enough people to buy that much, not sure if we even have the 4 liters covered yet.

Update
1 liter me
1 liter hyfalcon
500ml chemcam

others either backed out or are out of the united states which is a no go unless they want to pay huge hazmat fees.


Blue Matter, is this in regard to t-Butyl or t-Amyl? If so for t-Amyl I will join in for a liter.

chemcam - 18-7-2013 at 14:29

I will have to back out as well I thought shipping would be less than $19 for domestic. It comes out a little less if I just buy it locally and then I wouldn't have to wait either. I am sorry.

I wonder why shipping is so expensive, stuff containing non drinkable ethanol ships USPS so what makes tert-butyl any more dangerous?

Blue Matter - 18-7-2013 at 20:02

It has a pretty low flash point is what I understand is the reason for it needing to be ground shipped.

Also Bob t-amyl is really expensive so I wont be doing that sorry.

AndersHoveland - 18-7-2013 at 21:37

There might be other tert- alcohols with a higher molecular mass that are not flammable (example 3-Methyl-3-pentanol). These would probably work even better in the Potassium reaction, since they are less volatile. If one could find a good price on these other alcohols, it could avoid the haz-mat fees.

[Edited on 19-7-2013 by AndersHoveland]

Blue Matter - 19-7-2013 at 09:06

Quote: Originally posted by AndersHoveland  
There might be other tert- alcohols with a higher molecular mass that are not flammable (example 3-Methyl-3-pentanol). These would probably work even better in the Potassium reaction, since they are less volatile. If one could find a good price on these other alcohols, it could avoid the haz-mat fees.

[Edited on 19-7-2013 by AndersHoveland]


Are you positive they would be a viable substitute for tert in potassium synthesis? I haven't been able to find much information on the one you listed above.

ldanielrosa - 21-7-2013 at 21:37

I'm interested in 500mL or 1L if the shipping and hazmat are low enough.

Blue Matter - 23-7-2013 at 13:21

The supplier also has 20 liters of 28-30% ammonia for 125 dollars which is really a good price. I would be interested in like 3 or 4 liters if anyone else needs some just post or u2u me.

hyfalcon - 23-7-2013 at 13:33

That's a 5 gallon container. Do you have container's to split it up in?

Blue Matter - 23-7-2013 at 14:38

Plastic jugs can easily be procured milk jugs could even be used.

*more than likely if you ask them I am positive that they would bottle it in smaller quantities if wanted they are quite helpful.