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Michigan Banned Chemicals List?

MichiganMadScientist - 13-8-2013 at 10:10

Greetings Fellow Scientists:

I am trying to locate the "official" list of banned chemicals for the state of Michigan. I have already searched this board for such a list, and have found nothing. I also tried poking around Michigan's government website....but no success.

As far as I know, there is no regulations on owning glassware.....right?

/rant begin/ It amuses me that a state like Texas which is supposedly the "conservative capital" would also have the most RETARDED and INTRUSIVE laws regarding the ownership of glass. This saddens me. They say guns don't kill people (I agree, people kill people)...so let's not over-regulate guns.......but glassware ownership.....now that just MAKES people suddenly develop an urge to produce illegal stuff.:o:o:o /rantover/

In anycase, If someone knows where I can find a complete list of banned chems for Michigan, that would be appreciated. Also, is there a Federal list as well?

Much thanks for the help. :)

bfesser - 13-8-2013 at 10:29

Not sure about MI, but you should familiarize yourself with the Federally watched and restricted substances.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act" target="_blank">Controlled Substances Act</a> <img src="../scipics/_wiki.png" />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEA_list_of_chemicals" target="_blank">DEA List of Chemicals</a> <img src="../scipics/_wiki.png" />

MichiganMadScientist - 13-8-2013 at 10:36

What does list II chemicals mean? Am I not allowed to possess any quanitity of any list 2 chemicals??

Also, are there any laws regarding the storage of chemicals in a residence? I mean, they are all labeled, etc....but do I need to have MSDS's or anything for everything I have?

Thanks for the federal lists! Much appreciated!

[Edited on 13-8-2013 by MichiganMadScientist]

bfesser - 13-8-2013 at 10:48

Please read the Wikipedia articles in their entirety before asking for a clarification of what the lists mean. The wiki pages do a fair job of explaining it all.

Yes, there are laws regarding possession and storage of chemicals in a residence. I'm not a lawyer, though, so I'd rather not try to interpret them for you. I'm sure others here will give it a shot.

It's a good idea to have the MSDS (hard copy) for everything you purchase or obtain in significant quantity. I have three bright orange binders clearly labeled on the spine as "<img src="../scipics/_warn.png" /> <strong>MSDS [A-H]</strong> <img src="../scipics/_warn.png" />", [I-P], and [Q-Z] containing printouts of every reagent I have (alphabetized). I also have a printout in the front pocket of each with emergency telephone numbers (<a href="http://www.aapcc.org/" target="_blank">Poison Control</a> <img src="../scipics/_ext.png" />, etc.). I don't usually bother with things I synthesize (unless particularly hazardous), as quantities are rarely over a gram. The more professional and legitimate your lab appears, the better.

[edit] Welcome to ScienceMadness, by the way! :D

[Edited on 13.8.13 by bfesser]

MichiganMadScientist - 13-8-2013 at 10:57

Thanks for the help... :)

Hexavalent - 13-8-2013 at 11:01

Quote: Originally posted by bfesser  
I have three bright orange binders clearly labeled on the spine as "<img src="../scipics/_warn.png" /> <strong>MSDS [A-H]</strong> <img src="../scipics/_warn.png" />", [I-P], and [Q-Z] containing printouts of every reagent I have (alphabetized).


Which MSDSs do you have, from which source/company?

bfesser - 13-8-2013 at 11:14

Well, it's sort of on a case-by-case basis, but I feel comfortable generalizing that I use the MSDS from the company which produced/supplied the reagent, for the specific product where possible. Does this make sense, or am I explaining myself poorly?

Hexavalent - 13-8-2013 at 11:53

No, no, that makes sense. Thank you :)

On a side note, do you ever actually use the MSDS sheets, or are they just there for show, if necessary? I've always found them to exaggerate the dangers, and be too general to be useful...

bfesser - 13-8-2013 at 11:57

They exaggerate terribly, and often apply more to industry than to amateur laboratory settings, but I've read each of them at least once. It's not a bad habit to refresh your memory on the more hazardous compounds before handling them.

PeeWee2000 - 31-8-2013 at 09:38

Hey michigan I live in michigan too and as far as I know the only regulated chemicals are the ones that are on the lists bfesser pointed out. As far as storage goes the only thing I know of is the fire hazard generated from the chemicals particularly organic solvents, a fire proof safe is ideal but expensive. I believe that if your lab wherever it may be located if it happened to burn down with a bunch of organic solvents improperly stored would void any form of insurance, just a thought. Other than that I dont believe there are any storage regulations. And as far as glassware goes if it is illegal I havent run into any roadblocks yet and I have everything you would need to get the eyes of the DEA on you.

AndersHoveland - 15-9-2013 at 20:44

Quote: Originally posted by MichiganMadScientist  
It amuses me that a state like Texas which is supposedly the "conservative capital" would also have the most RETARDED and INTRUSIVE laws regarding the ownership of glass. This saddens me. They say guns don't kill people (I agree, people kill people)...so let's not over-regulate guns.......but glassware ownership.....

Yes, it is very ironic. But it does make some sense in a way: those who support gun rights also tend to be the same ones to trying to put harsh measures in place against recreational drugs.

Just a bunch of hypocrisy it seems like. Maybe there is something to what Libertarians have been saying all these years.