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perchloric acid titration of amine oxalate salts

indiangold - 6-3-2014 at 04:34

Hi guys ! I need some guidance on non-aqueous titration. I am trying to do a non-aq (HClO4) titration of an oxalate salt of a primary amine. It is not directly titratable with perchloric acid. When I add hercuric acetate solution, there is heavy precipitation of mercuric oxalate so end point detection is difficult even on potentiometer. Is there any alternative to mercuric acetate? Or any other alternative titration method for oxalate salts of amines?

DraconicAcid - 6-3-2014 at 09:17

Why not do a simple aqueous titration of the oxalate with permanganate?

indiangold - 7-3-2014 at 00:08

Actually I want to assay the oxalate salt for the amine content. The amine would also be reactive with KMnO4.......

Paddywhacker - 7-3-2014 at 22:08

If you are doing this in acetic acid then I cannot fathom why you are adding mercuric acetate. Oxalic acid is such a weak acid in comparison to perchloric that it should have little effect on the conductivity. In acetic acid solvent amines are strong bases and perchloric acid is a strong acid.