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why not use tin as the substrate

UncleJoe1985 - 23-4-2015 at 02:41

Excuse me if this is obvious, but why go through the trouble of precoating titanium with SnO2 or similar compounds when it would be much simpler to use a tin substrate directly?

I was thinking of simply taking a tin sheet and bake it with a heat gun to generate the oxide layer. It will be very thin compared to applying multiple layers of thermally decomposed SnCl2 or SnCl4, but does the SnO2 thickness matter after you coat it with a much thicker layer of PbO2?

UncleJoe1985 - 23-4-2015 at 02:42

crap, I hit post new topic instead of reply.

Moderator, please move this to this thread:

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=2465&a...


hyfalcon - 23-4-2015 at 04:33

Until you show the effort and read the available material that's available on this site, you will find that these questions have already been covered. You need to read this LARGE post that's a sticky, then ask your questions.

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=5050

UncleJoe1985 - 27-4-2015 at 02:46

I can't find it. Asking someone to read through 40 pages of unstructured information isn't reasonable. Someone should put a summary page at the beginning or have sub threads.

hyfalcon - 27-4-2015 at 03:08

If not willing to mine for the knowledge, then worthiness to posses it is suspect.

phlogiston - 27-4-2015 at 06:40

It will safe you time in the long run.
In the time it takes to actually test your tin substrate idea you could have read the entire 40 pages and found out exactly why it will not work, and a lot more.

morganbw - 28-4-2015 at 03:03

Quote: Originally posted by UncleJoe1985  
I can't find it. Asking someone to read through 40 pages of unstructured information isn't reasonable. Someone should put a summary page at the beginning or have sub threads.


I hear you sir. I suffered the same thoughts and a gentleman, sir Aga, suggested I might perhaps do as you suggested with the summary page.

It is what it is until you/me/someone else, has the energy/time/desire, to compact and make it more to the point.

In reality, this forum, has a wealth of info (mixed with some garbage) you have to read and see if your question has been answered.

Key to my post is that there is a WEALTH of info on the pages of this forum. You have to do a little mining to get some of it.

j_sum1 - 28-4-2015 at 03:21

Quote: Originally posted by morganbw  
Quote: Originally posted by UncleJoe1985  
I can't find it. Asking someone to read through 40 pages of unstructured information isn't reasonable. Someone should put a summary page at the beginning or have sub threads.


I hear you sir. I suffered the same thoughts and a gentleman, sir Aga, suggested I might perhaps do as you suggested with the summary page.

It is what it is until you/me/someone else, has the energy/time/desire, to compact and make it more to the point.

In reality, this forum, has a wealth of info (mixed with some garbage) you have to read and see if your question has been answered.

Key to my post is that there is a WEALTH of info on the pages of this forum. You have to do a little mining to get some of it.
Let me add that that is part of the appeal of this board. As you read through some of these threads (maybe just a small chunk at a time) you come across information and processes that you would never have thought of to search for.
Today's gem was CsCl3. I would never have guessed that existed. Now I know it is an interesting yellow colour. Whodathunkit?

phlogiston - 28-4-2015 at 08:26

By now, you would have also found the website by SM member Dann which is a great, information-dense resource.

You could have easily found this yourself, but never mind:

It used to be at http://oxidizing.110mb.com/, but there were some issues with hosting. You should be able to find its new location in a thread here somewhere.
Otherwise, you could use the wayback machine http://web.archive.org/web/20121202185409/http://oxidizing.1...

Edit: it is currently here: http://oxidizing.typhoonguitars.com/index.html

[Edited on 28-4-2015 by phlogiston]