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woelen - 8-8-2016 at 05:19

Most likely the green stuff is not Cr2(SO4)3.xH2O, but a basic chromium sulfate. Basic chromium sulfate is green and its solutions also are green. When a small amount of H2SO4 or HNO3 is added and allowed to stand for a few days, then the solution turns purplish/grey.

Basic chromium sulfate is present on eBay:
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/1kg-Chromium-Sulphate-top-quality-/22...

The formula on the bottle is wrong. In reality it best can be written as:

[Cr(OH)2]Cr(SO4)2 or as [Cr(OH)]2(SO4)2 or simply [Cr(OH)]SO4
It also sometimes is written as: [CrO]Cr(SO4)2.H2O
Solotions of this compound contain the green [Cr(OH)](2+) ion, the green [Cr(OH)2](+) ion and green sulfato-chromium(III) complexes.

The commercial product usually contains one sodium ion besides each chromium ion (due to how it is made) and then the net formula is

[Cr(OH)2]Cr(SO4)2.Na2SO4 or [Cr(OH)]2(SO4)2.Na2SO4
Also written as: [CrO]Cr(SO4)2.Na2SO4.H2O

Separation from the sodium sulfate is difficult and for its application it does not really matter, so the commercial product nearly always is the one with the sodium sulfate in it.

TheMrbunGee - 8-8-2016 at 05:55

Quote: Originally posted by woelen  
Most likely the green stuff is not Cr2(SO4)3.xH2O, but a basic chromium sulfate. Basic chromium sulfate is green and its solutions also are green. When a small amount of H2SO4 or HNO3 is added and allowed to stand for a few days, then the solution turns purplish/grey.

Basic chromium sulfate is present on eBay:
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/1kg-Chromium-Sulphate-top-quality-/22...

The formula on the bottle is wrong. In reality it best can be written as:

[Cr(OH)2]Cr(SO4)2 or as [Cr(OH)]2(SO4)2 or simply [Cr(OH)]SO4
It also sometimes is written as: [CrO]Cr(SO4)2.H2O
Solotions of this compound contain the green [Cr(OH)](2+) ion, the green [Cr(OH)2](+) ion and green sulfato-chromium(III) complexes.

The commercial product usually contains one sodium ion besides each chromium ion (due to how it is made) and then the net formula is

[Cr(OH)2]Cr(SO4)2.Na2SO4 or [Cr(OH)]2(SO4)2.Na2SO4
Also written as: [CrO]Cr(SO4)2.Na2SO4.H2O

Separation from the sodium sulfate is difficult and for its application it does not really matter, so the commercial product nearly always is the one with the sodium sulfate in it.


ok, I added H2SO4 to the solution, left it to stay, lets check this theorry.

The Volatile Chemist - 15-8-2016 at 14:05

With regards to the magnesium sulfate, you could always give it to a school or something, they always have use for the stuff in high schools. And if the compound of the year for the US Crystal growing competition is magnesium sulfate, well there you go...

TheMrbunGee - 17-8-2016 at 08:59

Quote: Originally posted by The Volatile Chemist  
With regards to the magnesium sulfate, you could always give it to a school or something, they always have use for the stuff in high schools. And if the compound of the year for the US Crystal growing competition is magnesium sulfate, well there you go...


I am from Latvia, I never heard that that schools here accept chemicals for lab.. and also I am not sure about purity.. crystal growing is not popular either. :/

I left few kilos for crystal growing for myself..


Quote:

Most likely the green stuff is not Cr2(SO4)3.xH2O, but a basic chromium sulfate. Basic chromium sulfate is green and its solutions also are green. When a small amount of H2SO4 or HNO3 is added and allowed to stand for a few days, then the solution turns purplish/grey.


9 days later - solution with acid is still green!


[Edited on 17-8-2016 by TheMrbunGee]

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