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Petition to ban DHMO

pantone159 - 12-3-2007 at 18:26

Penn and Teller have a petition circulated to ban that dangerous DHMO stuff, and get lots of signatures...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw

Sauron - 12-3-2007 at 18:32

Great! Nasty stuff, that.

I hear fish do rude things in it.

It obviously drives them mad.

And it is found in abundance in that notorious date rape drug known as "beer".

The children! Think of the children!

Where can I sign in Bangkok?

The_Davster - 12-3-2007 at 19:25

They have a TV show or something? I've seen a lot of vids of theirs telling the truth and making fun of morons.
Only saw one of theirs I dident like...

Ozone - 12-3-2007 at 19:34

Funny!

Last I checked, a 14 year old really made this one *good*. The state of Ca nearly banned plastic foam since DHMO was used in it's manufacture.

As much as I love this schtick (and I do) I certainly hope that Penn and Teller cite the original source for this material.

An with that:

A pollutant so ubiquitous as to have been found trapped in glacial ice...

Oh yes, check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax

Cheers,

O3

pantone159 - 12-3-2007 at 20:00

Quote:
Originally posted by The_Davster
They have a TV show or something?


They mostly do a magic act, I have mostly (always?) seen them on talk shows and stuff, where they do some skit.

They are hillarious, the tricks usually involve the quiet one (I forget which) getting horribly maimed while the other one does all the talking.

indigofuzzy - 12-3-2007 at 20:15

Quote:

They have a TV show or something? I've seen a lot of vids of theirs telling the truth and making fun of morons.
Only saw one of theirs I dident like...



Dare I ask which one?

The_Davster - 12-3-2007 at 21:03

Lets keep politics to whimsy, but it was the first one I saw of theirs which put me off them till I saw others.

quicksilver - 13-3-2007 at 07:24

That was hysterical (in more ways than one)!
It is sad that people with good intentions are so careless about what they vote for. I will stay away from politics as this isn't whimsy but on both side of the isle we have some serious issues due to lack of investigation prior to commitment. unfortunately I would bet that the petition signatories thought the chemical concerned was something toxic and NO ONE WOULD JUST HAVE THEM SIGN BULLSHIT. That's how vote manipulation works....and it works damn well, doesn't it?

indigofuzzy - 10-4-2007 at 15:30

So, has anyone set up a support group for DHMO addictions?

Maybe we need one of these....

quicksilver - 11-4-2007 at 05:29

Quote:
Originally posted by indigofuzzy
So, has anyone set up a support group for DHMO addictions?

Maybe we need one of these....

What would you call it and how would it work? DHMO is too freely available! That's the damn problem!

vulture - 11-4-2007 at 07:50

Try searching for aspartame rehab clinics...Same bogus science.

The_Davster - 11-4-2007 at 17:16

Quote:
Originally posted by vulture
Try searching for aspartame rehab clinics...Same bogus science.


Are you serious:o

Wow...if anything this leads more credence to that Dr (forgot his name) who believes addiction is just mental weakness.

vulture - 11-4-2007 at 23:53

http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-detox.html

I stopped searching after that, although there's MUCH more, because such mindboggling twisting of science hurts my sweet disposition...well..you get the idea.

quicksilver - 12-4-2007 at 06:17

Of course I am joking as I have often gotten sick over the non-peer reviewed shit that passes for therapy in the USA. There is "treatment" for "sexual addiction" and similar "garbage science".
What happens is that the "treatment center" usually charges enormous amounts for an individual to re-hash his anxiety, thus a catharsis & insight, etc. He is then referred to a "12-step" program similar to the Alcoholic Anonymous model (a 1940's format of therapy to be used in the 21st century)...it would be laughable if it were not so abusive & unproductive. The USA has a long way to go in dealing with mental health issues.

You might be thinking of Dr. Stanton Peele, but he is not THAT simplistic in his viewpoint. He does think that much modern "treatment" for addiction is junk, doesn't work well, & is abusive.

The_Davster - 12-4-2007 at 13:06

Oh it was Szasz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Szasz

"Psychiatry is a pseudo-science that parodies medicine by using medical sounding words invented over the last 100 years. To be clear, heart break and heart attack belong to two completely different categories. Psychiatrists are but "soul doctors", the successors of priests, who deal with the spiritual "problems in living" that have troubled people forever. Psychiatry, through various Mental Health Acts has become the secular state religion according to Thomas Szasz. It is a social control system, which disguises itself under the claims of scientificity"

But hey with 'mental illnesses' being used as criminal defences these days, and to legitimize any behavior we could get in on this.

'I have chemophobica rejecticus and scientificus enjoyica...thats why I choose to practice chemistry as a hobby. You can't discriminate against those with a 'mental illness'. The only treatment is for you to fund my lab till I get tired of it.:D

[Edited on 12-4-2007 by The_Davster]

[Edited on 12-4-2007 by The_Davster]

indigofuzzy - 12-4-2007 at 21:39

Hello, my name is Inidgofuzzy, and I have a problem.
I've been fighting a DHMO addiction for over 24 years, but I want to change.




:P

The_Davster - 12-4-2007 at 22:19

Add a crippling addiction to 'fire air' and understand my pain.


(for the non-alchemically inclined 'fire air' was Scheele's origional name for oxygen)

pantone159 - 12-4-2007 at 22:53

Quote:
Originally posted by indigofuzzy
I've been fighting a DHMO addiction for over 24 years, but I want to change.


Cold turkey. It's the only way.

Pyrovus - 12-4-2007 at 23:06

Well, there is a drug, formonitrile, which apparently can cure DHMO addiction almost instantly with a 100% success rate. It was found to be highly effective in treatment facilities for DHMO addicts in Germany in the 1940s.

chemrox - 13-4-2007 at 00:03

formonitrile .... good'n .. hehehe ...

I think DHMO would be a Ca listed precursor along with CCl4. Have to sign and give reasons for buying it .. no bulk sales without a DEA #

quicksilver - 13-4-2007 at 05:47

Quote:
Originally posted by The_Davster
Oh it was Szasz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Szasz



Very cool. I'm mostly there myself except I believe that there are SOME neuro-psychiatric physicians who practice as psychiatrists who are not quacks.

unionised - 18-4-2007 at 11:39

Perhaps it's just as well, after all some things are best not widely discussed , but I have not seen any reference to another disturbing use of DHMO. I understand (though I'm not willing to divulge the sources of this information) that all successful biological weapons programs have included DMHO in the culture medium for anthrax.

DeAdFX - 18-4-2007 at 21:46

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/14/woman-dies-trying-to-win-...


Hmmm looks like a foolish woman drank to much water and died. Comon politicans time to regulate/tax water...

Curse you DHMO , legislative action at last !

franklyn - 24-6-2007 at 20:42

Oh so you think this is a joke do you.

http://www.wfmynews2.com/business/consumer/article.aspx?stor...

That's it , I'm moving to Bora Bora.

When a legal product which is not even demonstrably harmful can be arbitrarily
banned by bureaucratic eco-terrorists it's time to move on.

Read all about it _
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&...

.

franklyn - 17-1-2010 at 22:11

The controversy rages
http://www.finishing.com/111/90.shtml

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Vogelzang - 28-1-2010 at 14:07

You can see from this
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
that "Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect". Looks like we should start regulating water.

Cou - 19-5-2013 at 19:40

I know this thread is old, but this is hilarious: A water system in Atlanta was shut down because they found out it was contaminated with dihydrogen monoxide, so apparently they cleaned it until it was in acceptable levels XD

elementcollector1 - 19-5-2013 at 19:43

Quote: Originally posted by Cou  
I know this thread is old, but this is hilarious: A water system in Atlanta was shut down because they found out it was contaminated with dihydrogen monoxide, so apparently they cleaned it until it was in acceptable levels XD

Oh, this happens all the time. That stuff's everywhere...

DeadHead - 24-5-2013 at 07:32

lets not forget the potential use as an explosive.......

http://www.powerlabs.org/waterarc.htm

Dangerous stuff right there....

binaryclock - 24-5-2013 at 08:59

Guys, you aren't getting the point here. Water is dangerous!! Kids are now using it for rocket propellant and could do some serious harm!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qzOzjRJpaU&t=105

[Edited on 24-5-2013 by binaryclock]

chemcam - 25-5-2013 at 14:33

Quote: Originally posted by binaryclock  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qzOzjRJpaU&t=105


That is the coolest thing I have ever seen.