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sabatier reaction (CO2 + 4H2---> CH4 + 2 H2O) Who makes the equipment?

sclarenonz - 14-5-2018 at 15:20

(Edited and consolidated, OP is probably a better writer than I- But in Portugese.)

good night

i want know if exist one company thats make the aparratus of reaction co2 + h?

[Edited on 5-15-2018 by Bert]

[Edited on 5-16-2018 by Bert]

Texium - 14-5-2018 at 16:30

Please try again with a more intelligible question

sabatier

sclarenonz - 15-5-2018 at 11:47

good afternoon
I'm looking for a company that manufactures the sabatier system to buy. I know it's possible to make calcareous and salt. But I'm out of time.

Bert - 15-5-2018 at 12:38

Hamilton Sundstrand built this for NASA, they are now part of UTC Aerospace Systems

Heavy Walter - 15-5-2018 at 13:35

That reaction is used in GC methanizers. Many companies sell it to install in a GC (Agilent; Perkin Elmer; Shimadzu)
It is very simple: A heater able to reach and control ca. 350 °C; a small chamber (ca. 2 cubic centimeters) filled with Ni powder (beware, is cancerigen) and a line for gas input, H2 and CO2.
I assembled one for a 5890 HP GC.
It works in a steady flow way.
Being interested in a batch mode, you will need to study how handle the gases in two steps: mixing and conversion, storing the product.

sclarenonz - 15-5-2018 at 17:13

thank you water
I have another question. these devices control the flow of gas. I thought about generating hydrogen. I'm afraid of storing hydrogen. Co2 is easy to get by just throwing muriatic acid in calcareous

ninhydric1 - 15-5-2018 at 17:35

Electrolysis of water, or the reaction of an acid with a metal (e.g. aluminium), will generate hydrogen in a constant stream.

sclarenonz - 15-5-2018 at 18:42

I'm looking for company that sells the cheapest equipment. but no company shows the price. Does anyone know the price? wanted to manufacture if it was too expensive. could use iron powder

Heavy Walter - 16-5-2018 at 06:27

Pay attention to your statement of the reaction at title, is wrong.
CO2 + 4H2---> CH4 + 2 H2O

You can use iron for generating the hydrogen but in order to replace the nickel catalyst you may use ruthenium on alumina powder.
See attached WiKi.
The assembled kits to doing that in a GC will cost several thousand dollars.
Depending on your skills (in electronics and manual and mechanical skills), you can make it by yourself.



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Bert - 16-5-2018 at 09:23

Not his fault, I edited the OP for clarity and apparently fucked the dog- I have now RE edited the title.

Heavy Walter - 16-5-2018 at 12:55

No Portuguese version but WiKi has an entry for methanizer.
Being decided to go ahead with a DIY methanizer, I can help you with some guides.

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sclarenonz - 17-5-2018 at 13:57

Good evening, I'm very happy and honored with your help, Walter. the goal is very simple to create a super fuel in a simple and cheap way I will buy the model g210w1 from the company generon.com and mix with the methanol to produce an amine. the biggest problem was magnesium. but after making an expedition in search of a lost city here in Amazonia I found tons of magnesium ore stone. At the moment I wanted your help with these guides. All my time. and investinento is very precious I can not go wrong